EXTREME Overclocking Forums - Back Page News (Submit News Here) http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com en Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:53:55 GMT vBulletin 60 http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/images/misc/rss.jpg EXTREME Overclocking Forums - Back Page News (Submit News Here) http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com Chrome OS available for download! http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=332030&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:45:18 GMT Chrome OS available for download!

http://gdgt.com/google/chrome-os/download/

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Hey! We've got a working version of
Chrome OS you can download for free!

Get Chrome OS for free from our super-fast content network!

You'll need VMWare Player (or VMWare Fusion for Macs) or VirtualBox to get it running.
]]> Back Page News (Submit News Here) kwiksilver http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=332030 OK. So office 2010 beta is available. http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=332010&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 02:59:49 GMT Just that,
http://www.microsoft.com/office/2010/en/default.aspx
I've just installed it and it looks and feel considerably better than the 2007 version. There is a 64-bit version as well which is nice (if you are planning on keeping your old office version as well while you test it just get the 32 bit as 64 won't install otherwise.) ]]> Back Page News (Submit News Here) xoggyux http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=332010 Google Chrome OS vids http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=332007&goto=newpost Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:29:58 GMT http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QRO3gKj3qw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ57xzo287U

I haven't paid attention to Chrome OS until I saw that first vid. I'll have to try it out on a laptop asap. :) ]]> Back Page News (Submit News Here) SSPrncVegeta http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=332007 x86 is now royalty free! http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=331924&goto=newpost Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:53:17 GMT The licenses are now royalty free for both parties which means that AMD won’t have to pay anything for its most important X86 license. So, AMD and Globalfoundries have the right to freely make X86 devices. Since this is a two way street, AMD will also give some patents to Intel and make the... The licenses are now royalty free for both parties which means that AMD won’t have to pay anything for its most important X86 license. So, AMD and Globalfoundries have the right to freely make X86 devices.

Since this is a two way street, AMD will also give some patents to Intel and make the competition less exciting. Nehalem looks much like AMD’s Barcelona and AMD will concentrate on catching up with Intel and bringing innovations that should help the company in 2011 to introduce some cool products such as Fusion as well as its Bulldozer savior core.

Source: http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/16473/1/ ]]> Back Page News (Submit News Here) SSPrncVegeta http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=331924 <![CDATA[Ubisoft Accused of Demanding Good Assassin's Creed 2 Review]]> http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=331912&goto=newpost Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:59:11 GMT ---Quote--- A German gaming magazine says Ubisoft demanded it give Assassins Creed 2 top marks or their review copy would be kaput. According the German gaming publication Computer Bild Spiele, Ubisoft would only release an early review copy of Assassins Creed 2 if the magazine agreed to give the...
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A German gaming magazine says Ubisoft demanded it give Assassins Creed 2 top marks or their review copy would be kaput.

According the German gaming publication Computer Bild Spiele, Ubisoft would only release an early review copy of Assassins Creed 2 if the magazine agreed to give the game its highest grade, "sehr gut" or "very good" in German. The magazine refused and audaciously decided to tell their customers about it as you can see in this poorly translated editor's note. Computer Bild Spiele plans to review the game only after it has been officially released.
Full article.

I wonder how many other companies do this. *cough*IW*cough* ]]> Back Page News (Submit News Here) Hickeydog http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=331912 Radeon Mobility HD 5000 news http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=331833&goto=newpost Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:42:08 GMT Not too much information is around on these, but here's a few infos I found on the web, if you find more info, please post :)

The TDP: http://en.inpai.com.cn/doc/enshowcont.asp?id=6972

The Models: http://www.electronista.com/articles...r.whole.range/

Summary of the different models: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1164410

Delay due to shortage: http://www.dvhardware.net/article38987.html ]]> Back Page News (Submit News Here) Odanez http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=331833 Fermi in trouble?? http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=331817&goto=newpost Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:44:12 GMT We all know it is constantly being delayed - but at the end of all those delays, what we were expecting was a stellar product from Nvidia. However, with today's press release, certain inconvenient details are revealed. Let's forget about the delays for now, and just consider the product itself.

The first Fermi GPU - GF100 - as we know for a while now, is a 3 billion transistor giant, taking a die size of around 500 mm2. Compare this with the 2.15 billion transistor, 330 mm2 Cypress on the same 40nm TSMC process, and you would be expecting a different class of product. Unfortunately, the details revealed today about cast an uncertain shadow over this basic assumption.

The first thing worth noticing is a complete and total absence of Single Precision performance figures or any comparison to direct competition - i.e. ATI's GPGPUs. It is clear that Fermi's real performance advantage would be Double Precision performance - had it hit the right clock speeds.

However, today's press release suggests Nvidia have missed target speeds by a lot. To be fair, Tesla products do clock lower, though not by much. In fact, GTX 280 and Tesla C1060 were clocked the same. Even taking a generous increase for Geforce products, things are still uncertain. As a result, DP performance is rated at between 520 GFlops and 630 GFlops. Suddenly, ATI Radeon HD 5870 - which wasn't even supposed to be a direct competitor - is performing right on par with 544 GFlops against Fermi's supposed strong point.

Full article
http://vr-zone.com/articles/fermi-in....html?doc=8054 ]]> Back Page News (Submit News Here) zollen http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=331817 5970 specs and price http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=331810&goto=newpost Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:57:03 GMT Taken from http://www.overclock.net/hardware-ne...-graphics.html . Source was not linked but they are AMD slides so we can safely assume it's legit. There's a last slide that I wasn't able to attach due to some error. You can see if when clicking the link though.

I knew ATi reduced stock clocks to keep it within specs. This card looks amazing. It's pretty much $100 cheaper than 2 5870's!
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]]> Back Page News (Submit News Here) Vit^pr0n http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=331810 Fermi released! http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=331807&goto=newpost Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:05:11 GMT Kidding, it's just a paper launch of Tesla cards based on Fermi.

PORTLAND, Ore.— SC09—Nov. 16, 2009—NVIDIA Corporation (Nasdaq: NVDA) today unveiled the Tesla 20-series of parallel processors for the high performance computing (HPC) market, based on its new generation CUDA processor architecture, codenamed “Fermi”.
Designed from the ground-up for parallel computing, the NVIDIA® Tesla™ 20-series GPUs slash the cost of computing by delivering the same performance of a traditional CPU-based cluster at one-tenth the cost and one-twentieth the power.
The Tesla 20-series introduces features that enable many new applications to perform dramatically faster using GPU Computing. These include ray tracing, 3D cloud computing, video encoding, database search, data analytics, computer-aided engineering and virus scanning.
“NVIDIA has deployed a highly attractive architecture in Fermi, with a feature set that opens the technology up to the entire computing industry,” said Jack Dongarra, director of the Innovative Computing Laboratory at the University of Tennessee and co-author of LINPACK and LAPACK.
The Tesla 20-series GPUs combine parallel computing features that have never been offered on a single device before. These include:
  • Support for the next generation IEEE 754-2008 double precision floating point standard
  • ECC (error correcting codes) for uncompromised reliability and accuracy
  • Multi-level cache hierarchy with L1 and L2 caches
  • Support for the C++ programming language
  • Up to 1 terabyte of memory, concurrent kernel execution, fast context switching, 10x faster atomic instructions, 64-bit virtual address space, system calls and recursive functions
At their core, Tesla GPUs are based on the massively parallel CUDA computing architecture that offers developers a parallel computing model that is easier to understand and program than any of the alternatives developed over the last 50 years.
"There can be no doubt that the future of computing is parallel processing, and it is vital that computer science students get a solid grounding in how to program new parallel architectures," said Dr. Wen-mei Hwu, Professor in Electrical and Computer Engineering of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. "GPUs and the CUDA programming model enable students to quickly understand parallel programming concepts and immediately get transformative speed increases."
The family of Tesla 20-series GPUs includes:
  • Tesla C2050 & C2070 GPU Computing Processors
  • Single GPU PCI-Express Gen-2 cards for workstation configurations
  • Up to 3GB and 6GB (respectively) on-board GDDR5 memory (*)
  • Double precision performance in the range of 520GFlops - 630 GFlops
  • Tesla S2050 & S2070 GPU Computing Systems
  • Four Tesla GPUs in a 1U system product for cluster and datacenter deployments
  • Up to 12 GB and 24 GB (respectively) total system memory on board GDDR5 memory (**)
  • Double precision performance in the range of 2.1 TFlops - 2.5 TFlops
The Tesla C2050 and C2070 products will retail for $2,499 and $3,999 and the Tesla S2050 and S2070 will retail for $12,995 and $18,995. Products will be available in Q2 2010. For more information about the new Tesla 20-series products, visit the Tesla product pages.

Just within AT's price range!

Source: http://www.elitebastards.com/index.p...ases&Itemid=34

So to be clear, this is a paper launch of Tesla based on Fermi. Desktop GPUs are due Q1 2010, these Tesla cards are coming out Q2 2010, even though they're not intended for gaming. ]]> Back Page News (Submit News Here) SSPrncVegeta http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=331807 <![CDATA[NVIDIA To Demo Working "Fermi" GPU at SC09]]> http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=331660&goto=newpost Sat, 14 Nov 2009 04:02:44 GMT NVIDIA finally has a working sample (engineering sample) of their up-coming “Fermi”, or “GT300”, Platform, and ready to show off at SC09 (Super Computer Convention) on Tuesday. If you happen to be there, NVIDIA will be showcasing the new flagship GPU at booth #2365. NVIDIA is also expected to show-off it’s CUDA muscles with next-generation HPC platforms.

NVIDIA’s Fermi platform will be the next flagship GPU for NVIDIA. NVIDIA claims that the “Fermi Tesla”, when compared to a modern quad-core, can deliver the same performance, at 1/20th the power consumption, and 1/10th the cost. It is expected to push around 3TFlops (Teraflops)/second.
At the end of September, The specifications of the “Fermi” platform were leaked to the web, and are as follows.
  • 3 billion transistors
  • 40nm TSMC
  • 384-bit memory interface
  • 512 shader cores [renamed into CUDA Cores]
  • 32 CUDA cores per Shader Cluster
  • 1MB L1 cache memory [divided into 16KB Cache - Shared Memory]
  • 768KB L2 unified cache memory
  • Up to 6GB GDDR5 memory
  • Half Speed IEEE 754 Double Precision
Fermi is expected to buff 512-cores, 6 64-bit memory controllers (384-bit), and GDDR5 with ECC. Fermi will natively support CUDA 3.0, C++, DirectCompute, DirectX 11, Fortran, OpenCL, OpenGL 3.1 and OpenGL 3.2. It will be the first NVIDIA GPU to natively support C++.

View NVIDIA “Fermi” Product Page
Via: Guru3D ]]> Back Page News (Submit News Here) zollen http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=331660 <![CDATA[Video Game Developers Say That Piracy Really Isn't A Big Threat To Business]]> http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=331641&goto=newpost Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:35:05 GMT I know this is kind of a hot topic around here, but I found this curious. http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091112/0831286906.shtml ---Quote--- Well this is a bit of a surprise. For all the talk we keep hearing about how piracy is destroying the video game industry, and news stories with... I know this is kind of a hot topic around here, but I found this curious.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/200...31286906.shtml

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Well this is a bit of a surprise. For all the talk we keep hearing about how piracy is destroying the video game industry, and news stories with video game execs talking up DRM and the threat of piracy, a recent study of video game developers had only 10% saying that piracy was a threat to their business. Plenty were concerned about it as an issue they had to deal with, but most seemed to have some perspective on the relative risk of the threat. In fact, other parts of the survey note that about 50% are adapting to the marketplace, saying that "piracy" will change the way they do business, with it mostly meaning more "piracy-proof" business models. On the DRM front, there isn't a whole lot of interest. 50% called it irrelevant with another 20% describing DRM as a part of the problem. I have to admit I'm a bit surprised by the findings (which makes me wonder a bit about the methodology), but it's nice to see at least some suggestion that developers are adapting, rather than threatening and blaming.
]]> Back Page News (Submit News Here) RealityRush http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=331641 Intel pay AMD a truckload of money! http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=331588&goto=newpost Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:12:04 GMT Latest news in the current Intel vs AMD lawsuit battles, AMD WINS! ---Quote--- US chip maker Intel has agreed to pay rival AMD $1.25bn as part of a deal to settle all outstanding legal disputes between the two companies. The two firms said the settlement covered all anti-trust litigation and... Latest news in the current Intel vs AMD lawsuit battles, AMD WINS!

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US chip maker Intel has agreed to pay rival AMD $1.25bn as part of a deal to settle all outstanding legal disputes between the two companies. The two firms said the settlement covered all anti-trust litigation and patent disputes.

"While the relationship between the two companies has been difficult in the past, this agreement ends the legal disputes," the two firms said. AMD's shares jumped by as much as 23% following the announcement.
Full article here;
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8357266.stm

A nice wad of cash AND a 23% share price rise means is a good time for AMD right now. Lets hope they capatalise on it and start grinding out those 58XX cards and some new CPU arch asap! ]]> Back Page News (Submit News Here) lexandro http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=331588 Lucid Hydra performance results revealed http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=331532&goto=newpost Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:03:43 GMT

74% improvement for 260
89% improvement for 4980
81% of combined fps of individual cards.



83% improvement for 4980
85 improvement for 260
82% of combined fps of individual cards.



44% improvement for 4890
85% improvement for 260
78% of combined fps of individual cards.


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Originally Posted by HotHardware.com
The Hydra 200 processor is currently in mass production and will soon be featured on retail motherboards, starting with MSI's Big Bang Fuzion P55 motherboard
Source: http://hothardware.com/Articles/Luci...ance-Revealed/







Another article by PC Perspective.



81% improvement for 260





51% improvement for 260.



82% scaling



81% scaling.








79% improvement for 260
77% scaling with 260 & 4890



35% improvement for 260.



87% improvement for 260
69% scaling with 260 & 4890

http://techreport.com/articles.x/17934

Remember, lower than 100% scaling doesn't mean a lack of near-100% GPU scaling. Games that are more GPU-dependent see a larger improvement.
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]]> Back Page News (Submit News Here) SSPrncVegeta http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=331532 Where is my 5800? http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=331528&goto=newpost Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:43:24 GMT ---Quote--- *O 5800, 5800, Wherefor Art Thou 5800?* Rumors are rampant and the BS is deep when it comes to AMD and its 5800 series video cards actually being in stock for purchase at e-tailers and retailers. HardOCP aims to get some straight answers to let our readers know what all this means to...
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O 5800, 5800, Wherefor Art Thou 5800?
Rumors are rampant and the BS is deep when it comes to AMD and its 5800 series video cards actually being in stock for purchase at e-tailers and retailers. HardOCP aims to get some straight answers to let our readers know what all this means to you and how it could impact your 5870 or 5850video card purchase.
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The Bottom Line
The fact of the matter is that 5800 series video card e-tail and retail availability sucks right now. That is not to say these cards are not hitting the shelves, there are just so few of them spread out globally at the moment, that when a card does actually go into stock, those cards are sold immediately. I know we have many readers waiting like hawks for a 5800 card to stick its head out of the grass. If you are impatient, the 5800 is likely not for you, but if you have a bit of time to stake out your target, the elusive 5800 can be had, and it will get simpler to lay your hands on one in the next few weeks.
Source: [H]ard|Ocp

It'll be nice to see prices dropping for the 5800 cards before Christmas.

To bad I won't have one! D*** YOU TACTF! I curse your third born! ]]> Back Page News (Submit News Here) SlayVus http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=331528 OCZ Seeking to become publicly traded http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=331508&goto=newpost Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:27:55 GMT Hexus is reporting that Newegg may not be the only established electronics company looking to list itself on the stock market exchanges. Well known memory manufacturer OCZ may be looking to get its feet wet to raise capital for the emerging SSD market. ---Quote--- Sauces in the underground taco... Hexus is reporting that Newegg may not be the only established electronics company looking to list itself on the stock market exchanges. Well known memory manufacturer OCZ may be looking to get its feet wet to raise capital for the emerging SSD market.
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Sauces in the underground taco bars of downtown Sunnyvale have been whispering that the long anticipated attempt by PC component maker OCZ to list itself on the NASDAQ is now underway. There's nothing like a fresh taco to get the tongue wagging and it looks like some industry insiders have been overheard discussing this development.

It seems that OCZ's pitch to would-be investors centres around its SSD (solid state drive) offering, and its insistence that OCZ would sell loads more of them if only it had a bit more cash to buy stock with. Apparently OCZ is currently unable to fulfill demand for its SSDs but, strangely, its memory and PSU offerings barely get a mention.

OCZ is hoping to raise several million dollars in new investment by offering preferred stock. It also hopes to achieve the 300 shareholder threshold required before a company can be listed on the NASDAQ and will further sweeten the deal by offering share price protection for 60 days after the anticipated NASDAQ listing date of 1 January 2010.
Full Article @ Hexus

OCZ looks like they are trying to become a dominant player in long term storage, now that things appear to be on the verge of a revolution. They have been aggressively pursuing all of the latest technologies and their support forums have been highly proactive at working through problems. However, you have to wonder what would happen if one of their competitors like Intel or Seagate developed/obtained the next cost affordable alternative. Will they stay a top player or get lost among the growing crowd? ]]> Back Page News (Submit News Here) WiCKeD http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=331508