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Old 02-23-2006, 03:07 PM   #21
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The 5% refers to the maximum variance. The closer to 12.00V the better
as jonny was saying above. In other words - 12.00V > 12.41V

BTW ... the spec is industry wide for ATX power supplies, not just Intel.

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Old 02-23-2006, 06:55 PM   #22
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BTW ... the spec is industry wide for ATX power supplies, not just Intel.
ATX == Intel.

Who do you think maintains the standard?

Formfactors.org is an Intel website. It's not a third party consortium like PCI or DDR.
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Old 02-23-2006, 06:59 PM   #23
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Yes, I thought it was a 3rd party consortium. Thanx for pointing that out jonny
Will be sure to keep that in mind in future. And try to pay more attention to
the fine print next time.

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Old 02-23-2006, 07:27 PM   #24
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lol, okay. Even though the voltages are that high... i've only got about 40 to spend on a psu, my parents won't go for more... i've argued and tried to get something more, but that's all i've got... is this PSU good? or should i pick that thermal take or some other PSU like that FSP (uhm... the FSP's a little $$ for my budget......). Like the other guy said before, i relaly don't need something too powerful, but i'd prefer it be like 420W+. Is the X-finity better than that thermal take?
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Old 02-23-2006, 07:47 PM   #25
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What PSU? What Thermaltake?
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Old 02-23-2006, 08:29 PM   #26
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This thermal take: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817153023

and that PSU:
http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...tId=2210219&cp
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Old 02-24-2006, 12:54 AM   #27
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I'd go for the X-finity over that TT everyday.
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Old 03-01-2006, 12:14 AM   #28
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well well, I re-evaluated my choices. I was worried about the high 12V voltages and how they move .20V on full load. So i looked for what other people recommended, and for only 10 dollars more, i could pick up that 400W Fortron. Though it's a step down from my "420"W power supply, I don't need the watts. The stable fortron seems good. I'm trying to find a couple of review sites that reviewed this specific power supply just to make sure that it's what I'm lookin for. Anyone got one?
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Old 03-01-2006, 11:08 AM   #29
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An actual "FSP" part number FSP or an "AX" part number FSP?

Big difference. The AX series is the econo-line (and I don't mean a Ford van.)
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Old 03-01-2006, 07:23 PM   #30
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yea, the AX... is it bad? (when you said econ, it makes me think "cheap" which usually equals "not good"). it's like AX400 something something
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It's not "bad." It's still a good value. But there's better.

For only $54.99, I'd get the AMS Mercury. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817101111

For $69.99, I'd get the Nextherm PSU460 (active PFC and efficiency > 76%. Rivals Coolermaster and Asus PSU's at $100 easy!) http://www.newegg.com/product/Produc...82E16817388003

And if you want to put up with rebate BS, I'm sorry but the Ultra X-Finity 500W is still a significantly better PSU and at $29 impossible to beat.
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Old 03-01-2006, 09:07 PM   #32
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Have you read the reviews of the X-finity? 12V at 12.00 is perfect.... 12.6V is intel max spec... the X-finity hits 12.51V on full load... it actually moves up .2V. That isn't good is it?
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Old 03-01-2006, 11:00 PM   #33
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Actually jonnyGURU does power supply reviews. Click on the links in his sig or check out some of his reviews at SLCentral. Maybe you will find that he has reviewed the X-Finity lineup. Many of the posters in this section have deep knowledge about power supplies.

The X-Finity is a solid mid-range power supply. If you can find one on sale within your budget you should buy one. It is a bit better than the Fortron AX400-PN, although the Fortron is well regarded. The Fortron may be the best unit available for under $40 without a rebate. Although we sometimes disagree on the ranking of the units people are recommending I suspect that we all agree that the Aspire is one of the poorer choices you could make.
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Old 03-02-2006, 04:39 AM   #34
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Have you read the reviews of the X-finity? 12V at 12.00 is perfect.... 12.6V is intel max spec... the X-finity hits 12.51V on full load... it actually moves up .2V. That isn't good is it?
Yes. I have read the reviews. And the "12.51 at full load" is from the Techgage review where he's using MBM5 to get voltage readings. So I know which review you read.

I like Techgage in general, but you have to admit there's something strange about that "load" test. I don't care what power supply you have; loaded rails go down in voltage. All three of his went up?!?! Why is he the only one that that's happened to?

Virtual Hideout's 12V went down a little bit "under load" but I think that's because his little load tester doesn't have a 2x2 connector so he can't load the 12V2. So when he juices up the 5V to increase overall wattage, he sort of crossloads the power supply a little bit so the 5 drops and the 12 goes up a little bit to compensate.

But still... all three primary rails going up during load is just plain weird and the use of MBM5 sort of negates the whole review.

Did you read any of the other reviews?

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Old 03-02-2006, 03:58 PM   #35
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i will kill you if u get aspire psu
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Old 03-02-2006, 05:06 PM   #36
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i will kill you if u get aspire psu
LOL.... Well there you have it!
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Old 03-02-2006, 09:40 PM   #37
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sounds like the aspire would kill me before you guys did. I'm just trying to figure out between the X-finity and the Fortron. Tomorrow is my last day before i buy. So... they're about the same?
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Go with the X-finity, you could then buy 1/8 of a dog with the money you saved
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Old 03-05-2006, 03:40 PM   #39
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Lmfao, 1/8th of one... so like a leg or something? Okay, i may seem undecisive... and I am..., but this time, i'm now open to any suggestions of power supplise that cost 60 dollars or less. I found an Fortron Source FSP400 for 57 after mail-in.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817104935

Any thing that's better? Everyone's given Fortron Source real good reviews. No DOA reports or anything that people post (even when some people just BS). that sound good or what?
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That's a very good power supply. Better than the AX model you specified earlier in the post.
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