Which 775 processor?

[Travalon]

Hi all I've been reading for a few years now with the occasional post. Now I have another conundrum. My wife's Dell () died and she asked me to fix it. I just did a full overhaul keeping only the C2d E6400 The 120gig hdd and the DVD Drive. I added:

ASUS P5G41T-M LX PLUS LGA 775 Intel G41 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 V2 (CMPSU-430CXV2) 430W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1066 (PC3 8500) Desktop Memory Model F3-8500CL7D-8GBRL
CoolerMaster Elite300 case
PNY GT430 1024Mb DDR3
A Garage sale 300gig IDE Hdd

I am only about $175 into it and it should last her for a couple more years.
I know 775 is going the way of the Dodo so I want to get a spare processor to drop in in a couple of years. There's really nothing else to upgrade other than the GPU which will be easy enough.(Just waiting for the right sale)
I was thinking the Q6600 but a thread here made me think other wise.

She doesn't game hard & doesn't render video. She watches TV on it has a cutting machine hooked up for crafts, Does Pictures and surfs the Internet.

I am looking for a good quad or duo for around $150 and would appreciate your input.

I will try my hand at Over-clocking the E6400 when I get bored and If I burn it up I need a back up.

Thank you all for your suggestions

[Mr.Scott]

Hi all I've been reading for a few years now with the occasional post.

You have 1......this one.
E8600.

[BigE4u]

For a computer with wifes simple duties on it, going with 8gb is a waste as well as thinking of using a quadcore later on, overclocking might help, but your wife will not know the difference, so save your money.

Its better being left as is running stock speeds only so theres no complaints from her saying its running really slow, locking up or crashing from being unstable and 4gb is more than enough if you plan on using a 64bit OS, 2gb if using a 32bit OS.

Depending on the model of the dell machine, if it has a front diagnostic panel PCB(power/usb/audio/mic), it uses a mini IDE ribbon cable connected to the original dell mobo to power on and shut down, so that means you will have to wire in a seperate power and reset switch to the asus motherboard for it to run properly.

Ps- too much hassle IMO, if so, may i suggest going on ebay and find a new/used exact replacement mobo for your dell machine that you can just drop in and go.

GL

[Travalon]

Thank you for your responses. I was trying to be politically correct with the unhappy smiley. I HATE Dell and I will get rid of it one piece at a time. I have already purchased all the listed parts and put the thing together. I know I've got some overkill going but I want this thing to last another 10 years. I guess the G41 chipset isn't that easy to O.C. with but it was my only real choice. I will probably burn up the 6400 eventually. Also I have an i7 920 machine running on an 850 watt Corsair and I don't like firing it up for things the Dhell could do. I usually stay a couple of years behind on games so the Smell will suffice for most of my applications. I however would like to re-do my 800 dvds into a h.264 format and put them on a LAN server for my house so we can watch them with a few clicks of the remote and I would like to be able to run the 2 machines to save time. I was considering a QX6850 SLAN3 or SLAWN? QX6800 SCLAP or a QX6700 SL9UL. So a new question has popped up. Which is better as far as model is concerned for each of these? I also figure this will be my machine to learn over-clocking before getting at my i7 920

[Nagoshi]

Buying a spare CPU for an already outdated platform is a stupid idea. FYI you can have a Pentium G620 (Sandybridge Dualcore) and a H61 board for Im pretty sure under $150 (it's something like $60 CPU and $50 board). Add $30 worth of DDR3 RAM and you have a brand new, modern computer that will whoop the *** of any dualcore out there (except maybe the highly OCed ones - but you are not going for these). Low-power, too.

[901-Memphis]

Originally Posted by Travalon

Also I have an i7 920 machine running on an 850 watt Corsair and I don't like firing it up for things the Dhell could do. 0

Just because you have an 850 watt power supply doesn't mean you are consuming that much electricity when you turn the pc on.

Depending on what video card you have the idle power draw could be about 75 watts with loads of 150 watts or greater depending on your video card and what your doing.

Sourced - http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/t...2100-tested/21

I am sure its not that much worse than the Dell.

If you like to check out electronics load on your power bill grab one of these

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16882715001

It will amaze you to see what is drawing how many watts even when some things are off!

[Travalon]

Thx Memphis. I realize I'm not sucking 850 watts but the thing does use more power and boy does it get hot!!!! I will look into the load meter though. I've been curious about a few things around the house.

@ Nagoshi notice the "QX" part of my last post thus negating the whooping of dual cores. Also I didn't ask if it was a stupid idea or not just for an opinion on processors.

Well Mr Scott I guess you're right "this one" .Could you explain why an E8400 is going for more than or equal to say a QX6700 or a Q9450 on ebay? It seems if I am intent on leading the lemmings I might as well lead wielding a 9450.

Thx

[jevans64]

Originally Posted by Travalon

Well Mr Scott I guess you're right "this one" .Could you explain why an E8400 is going for more than or equal to say a QX6700 or a Q9450 on ebay? It seems if I am intent on leading the lemmings I might as well lead wielding a 9450.

Thx

Probably because of the slightly higher clock speed. No telling why on eBay.

I have a little E8500 machine with 4 GB of RAM and a 560ti video card. It is great with games at 1920 x 1200 that are not current-gen games, like BioShock, Mass Effect, Civilization 4, Call of Duty 4 or MW2. It does quite well with Flash-based ( CPU-heavy ) games as well. I have no problems playing FarmVille and CityVille.

That G41 board probably won't last three years. I've had a few of them die after about 3 or 4 years of use. I've been replacing them with the G45 board from Intel while I can still get s775 stuff. I have yet to have a processor die.

[Mr.Scott]

Well Mr Scott I guess you're right "this one" .Could you explain why an E8400 is going for more than or equal to say a QX6700 or a Q9450 on ebay? It seems if I am intent on leading the lemmings I might as well lead wielding a 9450.

It's because of the overclockability on no or minimal voltage increase. Average OC on air is around 4.2GHz. The E8600 is right up there too.

[Sparkey247]

+1

and before the 2600K came along the E8600 was legend for 3dmark runs up through 3dm05. I own one for this exact reason.

they over clock like monsters and being its a dually they are easier to to keep cool.

[Dr. McCoy]

Originally Posted by Nagoshi

Buying a spare CPU for an already outdated platform is a stupid idea. FYI you can have a Pentium G620 (Sandybridge Dualcore) and a H61 board for Im pretty sure under $150 (it's something like $60 CPU and $50 board). Add $30 worth of DDR3 RAM and you have a brand new, modern computer that will whoop the *** of any dualcore out there (except maybe the highly OCed ones - but you are not going for these). Low-power, too.

That depends on if you're wanting to use the older stuff along with newer hardware or not. Personally I don't have a problem with keeping a spare CPU or two for older platforms IF the price is cheap enough and yes, you guys know I have a few spares.

As for Socket 775, I have a few good ones including a 631 and 651 Cedar Mill and also a E8400 here I could use but need a really good board to get the most from them.
The one I have for these currently isn't that great of a board (ASRock P43DE3) but it can clock one up IF the CPU has a high multiplier in the first place. Problem is even the 651 can top out the ASRock's FSB range and I know it could go much higher. Only real advantage to this board is it's a DDR3 board but kinda useless since the CPU's themselves cannot use the full range of the DDR3's clockspeeds but you will get what the chip is actually capable of handling with it at least.
Also doesn't help that now the board and 631 is in the wife's machine now but was a cheap way to get her up and running again.

BTW for a Socket 775 single core, Cedar Mill chips are the best choice since they clock very well, tend to be cheap to get and aren't the equivalent of a mini-furnace in your machine - At least I didn't have to pay alot to get the ones I have.

[901-Memphis]

I like single core Conroe-L chips, like the Celeron 420 (9x Multi).

I don't even have a 775 board anymore but i have a Celeron 440 laying around with a 10x multiplier if i ever feel the need to use it. It is only 2.0 ghz stock, but would easily clock to 3.40 ghz in any fsb adjustable board and would probably smoke them older Cedar mills clock for clock with only 512kb cache.

I used to have a super pi of my 3.40 ghz Celeron 420 before i got the 440 and stopped tweaking with them, but it was plenty quick.

Although the Cedar mill will be more useful for running in older board that won't support the 65nm conroe-l chips.