Connection Help: Router -> Network Switch -> Network Switch

[cora]

Hey guys,

I currently have this setup with only one connection:

Modem -> Belkin 8-Port Network Switch (blue)
Belkin 8-Port Network Switch (blue) -> System #1
Belkin 8-Port Network Switch (blue) -> System #2
Belkin 8-Port Network Switch (blue) -> My System

I code named it blue so that we know which switch I'm addressing. This switch has three other systems all connected through network cables. They all get internet just fine. Now there is going to be some setup changes with the introduction of a new internet connection in my room. I still want to keep the old connection as a backup and let other family members use it as IS.

There will be two internet connections:

Modem -> Belkin 8-Port Network Switch (blue) (living room)
Belkin 8-Port Network Switch (blue) -> System #1
Belkin 8-Port Network Switch (blue) -> System #2
Belkin 8-Port Network Switch (blue) -> Network cable to my room (unconnected).


Router -> Belkin 8-Port Network Switch (red) (my room)
Belkin 8-Port Network Switch (red) -> My System.


When my Router -> Belkin 8-Port Network Switch (red) line is down I want to be able use the old connection by disconnecting that Cat-5 connector from Belkin 8-Port Network Switch (red) and then connect the Belkin 8-Port Network Switch (blue) -> Network cable to my room.

Would this setup work?

Technically this became:

Modem -> Belkin 8-Port Network Switch (blue) -> Belkin 8-Port Network Switch (red) -> My System.

Is that really feasible? I just need standard Cat-5 network cables right? I;m not a network savvy so my head is burning.

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Example scenario:

On the switch in my room there is a router with my new connection and a switch.
The switch has one cable from the router on PORT-1, and another from my system on PORT-2.
Internet is working great and here I am in my room giving a client a live demo of a website I developed for him.
My internet from the router in my room goes down.
I phase around waiting for it to come back. After restating the router and such I end up calling my internet provider.
They tell me the cable is cut somewhere near my locality and they will get someone to fix it and give me an ETA of 3 hours.
I can't wait three hours as my client rescheduled his entire day for the live demo.
I can't go do the demo in any other system as only my system has things setup for a presentation.

Mom is on her own system browsing youtube in the living room.
In the living room there is my old connection powered by a modem and its connected to my old switch.
There is a network cable connected to that switch that runs through the walls and ends up to my room.
The end of that cable in my room is just rolled up and left on the side of my table unconnected, ignored, and abandoned...

So I pull out the cable from my router on the PORT-1 of the switch in my room.
Then I connect that abandoned cable connected to the living room switch to the PORT-1 of the switch in my room.

Do I get the modem's connection at this point?

Then after demo is all over and I get a call from my router ISP that my connection is back online.
I go ahead and disconnect and abandon the poor cable on PORT-1 and connect the cable from by router in its place.

See I'm trying to get my old connection in living room to act as a backup connection. NOT run at the same time.

[PhilZJ]

Basically your just swapping the cable in your belkin 6 port red to either come from the other room or you new router connected to your other Internet connection.

I think that should work fine.

[cora]

Sorry ignore the six-port and 8-port confusion. Lets just follow the color code. I have two identical 8-port network switch.

What I want to do is

1) Connect the modem to Belkin 8-Port Network Switch (blue) in my living room.

2) Then a lengthy network cable from Belkin 8-Port Network Switch (blue) to my Belkin 8-Port Network Switch (red) which is in my room.

3) No other connections to this red switch other than the network cable from blue switch.

4) Now I connect my system to my red switch. Will I be able to use the internet from the modem?

[WordMasterRice]

So long as you don't have managed switches (in which case you could do this without even swapping wires) what you have suggested will work just fine.

[cora]

Great then, thanks guys

[killermodz]

Thatis not going to work unless the switch is managed so that you can make vlans, or unless your willing to setup static addresses on every system and swap gateways as you need to utilize on or the other connection.

Running two routers on a simple switch with both running dhcp is a sure fire way to make things a mess. A simple switch isn't going to care what port is incoming and which are outgoing either, so moving the cable from one place to another won't do anything spectacular besides change the view in the back.

[cora]

Originally Posted by killermodz

Thatis not going to work unless the switch is managed so that you can make vlans, or unless your willing to setup static addresses on every system and swap gateways as you need to utilize on or the other connection.

Running two routers on a simple switch with both running dhcp is a sure fire way to make things a mess. A simple switch isn't going to care what port is incoming and which are outgoing either, so moving the cable from one place to another won't do anything spectacular besides change the view in the back.

I think you misunderstood. Two internet connection is not going to run at the same time.

What I'm after is simply: Modem -> Switch -> Switch -> System
What I currently have: Modem -> Switch -> System

I was simply wondering if the connection would work if it goes through two switches if I take off the router's network cable from the 2nd switch and replace it with the network cable from the 1st switch.

Example scenario:

On the switch in my room there is a router with my new connection and a switch.
The switch has one cable from the router on PORT-1, and another from my system on PORT-2.
Internet is working great and here I am in my room giving a client a live demo of a website I developed for him.
My internet from the router in my room goes down.
I phase around waiting for it to come back. After restating the router and such I end up calling my internet provider.
They tell me the cable is cut somewhere near my locality and they will get someone to fix it and give me an ETA of 3 hours.
I can't wait three hours as my client rescheduled his entire day for the live demo.
I can't go do the demo in any other system as only my system has things setup for a presentation.

Mom is on her own system browsing youtube in the living room.
In the living room there is my old connection powered by a modem and its connected to my old switch.
There is a network cable connected to that switch that runs through the walls and ends up to my room.
The end of that cable in my room is just rolled up and left on the side of my table unconnected, ignored, and abandoned...

So I pull out the cable from my router on the PORT-1 of the switch in my room.
Then I connect that abandoned cable connected to the living room switch to the PORT-1 of the switch in my room.

Do I get the modem's connection at this point?

Then after demo is all over and I get a call from my router ISP that my connection is back online.
I go ahead and disconnect and abandon the poor cable on PORT-1 and connect the cable from by router in its place.

See I'm trying to get my old connection in living room to act as a backup connection. NOT run at the same time.

[WordMasterRice]

Originally Posted by killermodz

Thatis not going to work unless the switch is managed so that you can make vlans, or unless your willing to setup static addresses on every system and swap gateways as you need to utilize on or the other connection.

Running two routers on a simple switch with both running dhcp is a sure fire way to make things a mess. A simple switch isn't going to care what port is incoming and which are outgoing either, so moving the cable from one place to another won't do anything spectacular besides change the view in the back.

He isn't running 2 on a simple switch. He is running 2 on 2 independent switches and wants the ability to, if one internet connect fails, swap the cable so that his switch is now on the other.

[cora]

Originally Posted by WordMasterRice

He isn't running 2 on a simple switch. He is running 2 on 2 independent switches and wants the ability to, if one internet connect fails, swap the cable so that his switch is now on the other.

Exactly what I was trying to say in my last lengthy post, you managed to express that in just two sentences! Thanks again wordmaster!


(oh its a she by the way ^.^)

[killermodz]

Ah, that's where I misunderstood. In concept yeah this will work, so long as the computers now joining the alternate network (in your example swapping routers since the main went down) either run on the same private subnet as the alternate network, or so long as you renew an IP lease if swapping routers and they run different subnets.