new Phenom II 980 BE build over clocked to 4.1 vcore ??

[ShrimpBrime]

I'm well aware that print was before the 980BE was released. In fact, I bet your not actually finding a stock VID for a 980. I know cause I looked.

That clock speed says 3500mhz @ up to 1.425v and is 125w.

Your 965BE is 140W C2.

So I can feel comfortable seeing 121.80w at 1.440v and know it's still with in it's 125w thermal design package. Meaning 1.45v is a max P-state voltage. I didn't make it up.....

Not arguing that boards will post different voltages.

[Mr.Scott]

That document was for a 970. There is no difference between Deneb cores. They're all the same, just different multi's and binning. That's why the document covers all 125/140w AM3 cores. The top line states just that.

It's OK Jonny, I still luv ya. We can agree to disagree.

[ShrimpBrime]

Yea it's ok Scotty. I can't do 4.2ghz without 1.5v. There's just no stability in it.

[Mr.Scott]

Originally Posted by ShrimpBrime

Yea it's ok Scotty. I can't do 4.2ghz without 1.5v. There's just no stability in it.

I understand. Luck of the draw wins again.

[ShrimpBrime]

But what is neat, is that the voltage left on auto and I OC the Bus to 250 like this, it sets voltage to 1.520 @ 4ghz. I thought it was kind of high myself.

I tried 4ghz and 1.3250v and got a nice little shut down from it. Not enough voltage.

[Mr.Scott]

Originally Posted by ShrimpBrime

But what is neat, is that the voltage left on auto and I OC the Bus to 250 like this, it sets voltage to 1.520 @ 4ghz. I thought it was kind of high myself.

I tried 4ghz and 1.3250v and got a nice little shut down from it. Not enough voltage.

Just for grins, try the stock 3.7 @ 1.325v. Kinda interested is all.

[ShrimpBrime]

I'm actually trying out 1.350v. Gonna leave it for a few days and see how it does. But I can notch it down a little.

[Junkies]

Originally Posted by Mr.Scott

Just for grins, try the stock 3.7 @ 1.325v. Kinda interested is all.

well mine wont run at 1.35 @3.7
but its running rocksolid at 4.0 at 1.45 finally figured out some of the settings on this board lol seems to be a max temp of 56c after 50 passes in Intel burn test

do we go by the core temp or cpu temp i thought it was core temp

i might be able to get 4.2 on it ill see where the temps are later i just installed 2 new drives and a new vid card

system is as of now

980 be @4.0
asus sabertooth 990fx
16g munskin ddr3 1600 @9-9-9-24 1.5v
hd 6950 OC 2G X2
OCZ agilty 60g ssd X2 in Raid 0
wd caviler blue 7200 rpm 250g X2 in raid 0
corsair 750 tx
cooler master haf 932 advanced

[ShrimpBrime]

Nice. I'd try and push with the current voltage. It's already just about too hot.

Cpu temp matters most. Cores temps are good to look at as well. I'm not a fan of anything over 50c, but if you can get away with it, by all means!!

At the 800mhz setting, see if your ram can do 8-8-8-24-32. If the 1.5v stock doesn't work, you can safely bump that mushkin to 1.65v NP. The 8-8-8-24-32 is a Blackline XMP figure, your ram should be able to handle it.

[Junkies]

Originally Posted by ShrimpBrime

Nice. I'd try and push with the current voltage. It's already just about too hot.

Cpu temp matters most. Cores temps are good to look at as well. I'm not a fan of anything over 50c, but if you can get away with it, by all means!!

iv been looking at the core temps and not letting them go past 60 (which i thought was amds recommended limit) is 60 the limit on cpu temp

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ok im really quite ****ed off rite now
bf3 on AUTO settings and it doesnt peg 60fps with 2 6950 2g overclocked cards drops all the way down to 30 and studders like a ***** its not even loading the cards past 50%

any ideas guys the corsair 750 tx might not be enough to run this system
would not haveing enough power cause my sestem to get low fps
i had 2 7770s in here doing about the same fps
i just dont understand this

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screw it i just ordered one of these
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371060

[DarkTower87]

Originally Posted by Junkies

iv been looking at the core temps and not letting them go past 60 (which i thought was amds recommended limit) is 60 the limit on cpu temp

Additional Comment:

ok im really quite ****ed off rite now
bf3 on AUTO settings and it doesnt peg 60fps with 2 6950 2g overclocked cards drops all the way down to 30 and studders like a ***** its not even loading the cards past 50%

any ideas guys the corsair 750 tx might not be enough to run this system
would not haveing enough power cause my sestem to get low fps
i had 2 7770s in here doing about the same fps
i just dont understand this

Additional Comment:

screw it i just ordered one of these
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371060

I had the same problem, until I got an i7...

[Mr.Scott]

Originally Posted by DarkTower87

I had the same problem, until I got an i7...

Ouch .

[DarkTower87]

Originally Posted by Mr.Scott

Ouch .

No really. I had one 6950 with my 955be @ 4.3. BF3 I could run max but it would drop into the high 20's and low 30's. I decided to get a second 6950 thinking it was my GPU. My average went up but I was still dropping down to the same fps as I did before in the same areas. I decided to get an i7 and switched to a single 570. I now never drop below 38 with everything maxed. My CPU was the bottleneck. I watched task manager and at 4.3 the cpu was normally hovering around 80 - 100% The i7 at 4.4 sits around 30 - 50%.

[Junkies]

Originally Posted by DarkTower87

I had the same problem, until I got an i7...

NEVER!!! the few times i have ever owned Intel or nvidia they have burned up
i have never killed a amd or ati/amd card i abuse the hell out of them too
hell i have a 2800+ thats still running next to me that thing hasnt been shut off for more than a few mins in like 7 years

ill get an fx 8 core before i get a Intel anything

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fixed it still glad i got a new ps but i uninstalled the drivers didnt let windows install its driver and re installed vid drivers 170 fps in arma 2 at very high settings and around 80 in bf3 on ultra

Additional Comment:

Originally Posted by ShrimpBrime

At the 800mhz setting, see if your ram can do 8-8-8-24-32. If the 1.5v stock doesn't work, you can safely bump that mushkin to 1.65v NP. The 8-8-8-24-32 is a Blackline XMP figure, your ram should be able to handle it.

so shrimp am i going to need active cooling on my ram ? one of the fans i have on the cpu block sucks air from right across the tops of the memory what kind of improvements will i see with that ?

[ShrimpBrime]

Running a tighter Cas is always better if you can pull it off. Some people push for Cas 7, when most mushkin sticks will run counterpart timings and be perfectly stable.

@1.65v or less, you won't need active cooling, but if your going for Cas 9, might as well push as far as the Ram will go. I have been using 1.88v @ 1000mhz effective @ 250 bus. This you'll need a dedicated ram fan. Keep em' cool!

[Junkies]

Originally Posted by ShrimpBrime

Running a tighter Cas is always better if you can pull it off. Some people push for Cas 7, when most mushkin sticks will run counterpart timings and be perfectly stable.

@1.65v or less, you won't need active cooling, but if your going for Cas 9, might as well push as far as the Ram will go. I have been using 1.88v @ 1000mhz effective @ 250 bus. This you'll need a dedicated ram fan. Keep em' cool!

no boot no post no nothing at those timings even at 1.65v just nothing i wonder if i set something in the memory timing wrong i dont know

[Junkies]

and my system is just idling and my vcore is set in bios to 1.5
and here are the readings im getting i wonder if the new 1000watt ps will fix this

[ShrimpBrime]

Can I have your part number and maybe a SS of the SPD tab of Cpu-z?

And that was at 200fsbus?

Try this for sensors, see if you dig it. http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html

Do you have Load Line calibration in your bios? That will help correct the low volt.

[Junkies]

running hardware monitor lol and here is a ss of the digivrm and cpuz spd
i have all the setting in bios as well
yess 200 fsb

993770
16GB (4x4GB)
pc3-10666
9-9-9-24
silverline

[ShrimpBrime]

That's strange to say the least. All your Ram specs are the same as my Redline and blackline. And definitely shouldn't need more voltage either. This would be the first time I've ever seen Mushkin not do Cas 8

Here's a SS of my SPD tab. I'm running the XMP timings at 1.88v, but the Ram will do the 933 @ 1.65v. If I was running an FX or Llano, I remember these sticks doing 933 @ 1.50v NP and 1100mhz effective at 1.68v. So the Memory controller does play a role in how the Ram is gonna run with the cpu.