NVidia 3D Vision

[The_Nephilim]

Originally Posted by Dil-tech

The Witcher 2 is DEFINITELY worth the playthru. Best action RPG in quite some time, it really is amazing as you get further in.

I do have to ask how you managed to get 3d to get along with playing on that set up though... If you made it work with something uncapable of 120hz then it may be possible to do the same with lcd monitors not at 120hz. Yeah, performance will suck on a 60-75hz, but it could be quite helpful for the rest of the guys here.

The Witcher would be cool if it where not for so many cut scenes.. kinda like SWKOTR

Well it will NOT be possible. First these projectors where capable of the older 3D Glasses the EDimensional ones, it was a short list but they worked.
I got it to work by using a Matrox TH2Go unit and it tricked the nVidia driver to thinking I had a CRT Monitor so I use the CRT Mode for 3D and Voila it works..

I do NOT think that trick will work for a LCD Monitor because they are NOT 3D Capable to begin with..

The Hz is Not the trick but it would be nice having the 120hz monitors for Better FPS and Less Flicker tho.. I plan on upgrading these projectors soon but not at least for 6-12 months.. I am going to buy some new bulbs and use these for some more months until I can save the $1200 bucks to get the new projectors..

[Dil-tech]

There's not nearly as many cut scenes once you get into the game on the witcher 2. It's just early on while they set the story (which is an amazing story, btw).

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In case anyone is curious about battery life, I haven't charged the glasses since the initial 3 hour charge after buying and they're STILL nowhere near dying. It's a non-issue!

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Let it be known, here we are practically 2 full months later, and I STILL haven't had to recharge the batteries.

NVidia got these things right in terms of longevity. You pretty much would have to be the laziest person in the world to manage to ever have the batteries die on you.

[§k¥¥ |{£øúÐz]

i might have to save up and get some 3d capable monitors.

my right samsung led has a line through it

would also be nice to have some lcd's that are wall mountable to help clear desk space, since with 3 1080p monitors, is non existent. my poor bank account!

[Dil-tech]

Originally Posted by §k¥¥ |{£øúÐz

i might have to save up and get some 3d capable monitors.

my right samsung led has a line through it

would also be nice to have some lcd's that are wall mountable to help clear desk space, since with 3 1080p monitors, is non existent. my poor bank account!

It really is worth the investment. It changes your gaming like nothing before it has ever done!

Side note, going to start up Sleeping Dogs after I get off work. Apparently it's pretty **** wicked in 3d.

[§k¥¥ |{£øúÐz]

Originally Posted by Dil-tech

It really is worth the investment. It changes your gaming like nothing before it has ever done!

Side note, going to start up Sleeping Dogs after I get off work. Apparently it's pretty **** wicked in 3d.

i steam gifted that to my buddy and he said it's amazing. i'll have to check that one out too

[Dil-tech]

Sleeping dogs is definitely awesome...especially in 3d vision. Unfortunately the game itself has total control over depth and convergence, but there's apparently a work-around.

[Nookie420]

while you guys are making me want to play with 3d, the Wither 2 is a freaking sweet game, I really liked it. A LOT.

[Dil-tech]

Originally Posted by Nookie420

while you guys are making me want to play with 3d, the Wither 2 is a freaking sweet game, I really liked it. A LOT.

Playing it in 3d is seriously an unreal experience.

[SwiftSnipeR]

i picked up a sony PlayStation display (knock on wood) i haven't and any problems with it. so now to play 1080p your have to drop the refresh rate to 24hz so would it be better to play on 720p at the 60hz? i booted up bf3 and something seemed off i mean it was in 3d but it was just off some how.


here is some cool info i found idk if it works yet but i will try after work.
http://community.us.playstation.com/.../td-p/36425449

[Dil-tech]

Originally Posted by SwiftSnipeR

i picked up a sony PlayStation display (knock on wood) i haven't and any problems with it. so now to play 1080p your have to drop the refresh rate to 24hz so would it be better to play on 720p at the 60hz? i booted up bf3 and something seemed off i mean it was in 3d but it was just off some how.


here is some cool info i found idk if it works yet but i will try after work.
http://community.us.playstation.com/.../td-p/36425449

The PS3 display uses HDMI 1.4(1.4a is the first hdmi specification that can support 1080p@120hz, NO TV MAKER OUT THERE SUPPORTS 1080P@120HZ THO, TRUST ME ON THIS!), which doesn't have the bandwidth to support 120hz@1080p, which is required for 120 frames a second at 1080p. If you can, return that and buy an actual 3d vision monitor.

Also, the PS3 display has around 2-3 frames of input delay.

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Finally got a chance to put diablo 3 through it's paces, and once I applied the Helix mod to fix inside shadows OMG... Seriously, this is another one that must be seen to be believed. Just make sure if you try it to adjust the convergence properly, or you'll have shadows that shouldn't be there.

[SwiftSnipeR]

I dont care about the 120hz and the 2-3 frames delay im not noticing it in bf3

[Dil-tech]

120hz is required for NVidia's 3d vision. Otherwise you're stuck with tri-def or iz3d--both are HORRIFICALLY inferior. I have personally tested all 3 (and oddly enough, the non-nvidia ones were on a MUCH better screen, a 73" DLP), and 3d vision is seriously in a whole new league in terms of quality.

You can buy a 3d vision monitor for less than you paid for the PS3 monitor. Return that garbage and get the real thing.

p.s.

120hz = 60 frames per second per eye. The PS3 monitor can only do 24 frames per second per eye at 1080p. That isn't even REMOTELY playable for gaming at 1080p.

[SwiftSnipeR]

Originally Posted by Dil-tech

120hz is required for NVidia's 3d vision. Otherwise you're stuck with tri-def or iz3d--both are HORRIFICALLY inferior. I have personally tested all 3 (and oddly enough, the non-nvidia ones were on a MUCH better screen, a 73" DLP), and 3d vision is seriously in a whole new league in terms of quality.

You can buy a 3d vision monitor for less than you paid for the PS3 monitor. Return that garbage and get the real thing.

p.s.

120hz = 60 frames per second per eye. The PS3 monitor can only do 24 frames per second per eye at 1080p. That isn't even REMOTELY playable for gaming at 1080p.

ok thanks didn't know that i only paid 200$ for the PlayStation monitor new with everything there liquidating them so there all onsale. i ended up get 2 of them but im already having black screen issues with one i thought maybe since they were older modles they would of been fixed by now i guess i was wrong.

this kit looks good what do you think?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824236092

[Dil-tech]

The asus monitors are awesome; I highly recommend them. They're essentially the same as what I have, but with a better stand and the asus logo on them.

[Cecil]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824236262

I might be buying that today. Just kind of scared of passive 3D for games.
Have dual 7870s, so cant do Nvidia 3D. That monitor is the only IPS 3D one Ive found, and is only $250. Its mainly going to be a secondary monitor to my 27in 2560, and for playing console games. Sucks its not 120Hz, cause I really wanted to try that out too.

Just cant find any info on how that monitor will work with AMD and DVI. If its just 2D-3D, or 1920x540/60P per eye, or what.


I have a 59in 3D plasma that I think looks pretty good in 3D, but saw Nvidia 3D with Just Cause 2 and was even further blown away by it. So Im considering getting a 120Hz 3D set, and switching to Nvidia again.

[Dil-tech]

NVidia's 3d seriously beats out tri-def (I will actually be doing an article covering AMD and NVidia's methods once the cards reach me).

[Cecil]

Depends on the game and situation.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...ming,3019.html

But the monitor Im looking at uses a different tech then any other normal 3D monitor.


Instead of 1080/60P flashing between left and right eye (effectively 1080 one eye, 0 other eye, then alternate), LG's passive method is 1920x540/60P to both eyes at the same time, showing a combined 1080/60P at all times.

[P.I.M.P_SLi]

Good review. I would be more than willing to give 3d gaming a go if there were 120hz pva panels on the market. Might have to wait a bit longer I guess.

[Cecil]

If you are in need of Nvidia 3D kit (two glasses + reciever) the warehouse I go to has tons of them.

[Dil-tech]

Originally Posted by Cecil

Depends on the game and situation.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...ming,3019.html

But the monitor Im looking at uses a different tech then any other normal 3D monitor.


Instead of 1080/60P flashing between left and right eye (effectively 1080 one eye, 0 other eye, then alternate), LG's passive method is 1920x540/60P to both eyes at the same time, showing a combined 1080/60P at all times.

I've tested using both tri-def and 3d vision extensively (my bro has both, I have 3d vision), and in all honesty 3d vision has CONSISTENTLY been the better experience.

You see, tri-def is a driver wrapper. It has to go over the video driver, and a lot of the time it doesn't co-operate. When I say a lot of the time, I mean a LOT of the time. A vast majority of titles end up having to be knocked back to DX9, multi-gpu doesn't work PERIOD, and some games just seem to lack depth entirely.

As for passive... Passive can't touch active. Again, I've personally used both for extended periods of time, and it's not even close to the same ball game. Also, the LG passive monitors will leave you locked in with Tri-def.

Finally, the resolution split between both eyes will NOT give you full 1080p at all times. That's marketing speak. You CAN tell the difference. It's similar to checkerboard on 3d dlp tvs.