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Old 07-13-2005, 08:59 AM   #1
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INTEL, all is not lost

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=24573

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A NEWSPAPER CLAIMS that manufacturers of desktop motherboards and chipsets are up in arms because Intel is positioning its future Yonah Pentium M to replace the Pentium 4.
According to the Taiwan Economic News, a number of manufacturers are alarmed at the prospect of slimline and quiet Pentium Ms further eroding their business models.

The move will also have an effect on alternative chipset suppliers such as SIS and Via, and eat into Qualcomm sales as well.

Intel is expected to introduce Yonah in the first quarter of next year while the article claims the Pentium D won't be long for this world.

That's not the story Intel is telling, however. The Pentium D remains on its roadmap while the chip giant is working on future desktop processors at 65 nanometres, as well as designs which will eventually displace the Pentium 4.

The "D" in Pentium D stands for different, Intel told journalists earlier this year. µ

So the Yonah aka dual core dothan will be the replacement for the Pentium 4's. This will mean that it will be super fast in games and super fast for other things as well
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Old 07-13-2005, 09:05 AM   #2
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is it going to be suported by curent motherboards ?
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Old 07-13-2005, 09:10 AM   #3
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wow !!!!
but i bet it will be EXPENSIVE right ?
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Old 07-13-2005, 09:11 AM   #4
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wow !!!!
but i bet it will be EXPENSIVE right ?
65nm process should bring the price down. if its going to be used as a desktop chip it cant be too expensive or it wont sell.
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Old 07-13-2005, 09:22 AM   #5
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It will work in the 945/955 and nf4 motherboards I imagine. Seeing as its dual core.
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Old 07-13-2005, 09:34 AM   #6
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**** dual core pentium M's. Intel doing something right for a change lol?
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I wonder if they will up the clock speed to that of around 2.8ghz? That would surely give them the lead in the best cpu market.
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65nm process should bring the price down. if its going to be used as a desktop chip it cant be too expensive or it wont sell.
Hmmm..... Point to be noted. So the begining of next year huh ?
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Old 07-13-2005, 09:54 AM   #9
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Omg i need more details!!!
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Old 07-13-2005, 10:07 AM   #10
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High speed, multicore, low P.C. notebooks; hmm need more details.
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Old 07-13-2005, 11:51 AM   #11
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i cant understand why intel didnt use the dothan core (or something similar)as a desktop cpu as soon as it came out.. its and awesome cpu... and also intel's only chance against amd.. a dual dothan core with emt64 and sse3 would rule.
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Old 07-13-2005, 11:59 AM   #12
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i cant understand why intel didnt use the dothan core (or something similar)as a desktop cpu as soon as it came out.. its and awesome cpu... and also intel's only chance against amd.. a dual dothan core with emt64 and sse3 would rule.

The Pentium Ms (dothan included) are based off the Pentium 3 design. Granted its much, MUCH, improved, but its there.
Thats why its got DDR333 standard, amongest other things. This means that the areas the Pentium 4 is top at, Intel wouldn't be top at anymore.
If Intel went to Dothan, it would have been a PR nightmare.


What I don't get is why the companies are mad about a notebook chip being better. Are they worried that desktops won't have the performance edge over notebooks?
I say bring it, long live the DTR.
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Old 07-13-2005, 12:01 PM   #13
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Wow, I feel an urge to have a Yonah/Dothan for my next computer...
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oh yeah i forgot about ddr333 support only.. well the new ones support 533, no?

edit: imagine the geekiest, most nerdiest girl on the planet.. i bet her name is yonah
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oh yeah i forgot about ddr333 support only.. well the new ones support 533, no?

edit: imagine the geekiest, most nerdiest girl on the planet.. i bet her name is yonah

Yeah, the new Ms support DDR2 at 533. Some of the desktop boards can OC it without effort to 667.
I suspect however that this is more of a chipset work around more then anything else.
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Intel's were at the top of the game when they first introduced the P4. It is only recently since the AMD64 754 came out that it started to not do as well but it still wasn't like it is now. Neck and Neck. Only recently are Intel a *little* bit behind on the gaming side of things. But dual core is a different kettle of fish but now they seem to be offering a lot more. with 4mb cpu's
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YYYEEEEESSS! Thankgod they didnt put them on another socket. Screw presler, I cant wait for Conroe.
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What sentential means is that conroe is the dothan for desktop with 4mb of cache. Where as yonah is 2mb of cache and used for desktop. This is what I should of explained. Presler is a dead weight now
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What sentential means is that conroe is the dothan for desktop with 4mb of cache. Where as yonah is 2mb of cache and used for desktop. This is what I should of explained. Presler is a dead weight now
Yea and whitefield is the new Xeon core. My guess is that these chips will arrive with the lakeport i965 and i975 chipsets just in time for Vanderpool
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What sentential means is that conroe is the dothan for desktop with 4mb of cache. Where as yonah is 2mb of cache and used for desktop. This is what I should of explained. Presler is a dead weight now
dothan with 4mb of cache ????!?!?! wow that just tipped me over the edge looks like intel gunna be back ontop soon enough
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