WTF,, I've got a bottle neck somewhere???

[xtremedelta]

ok , so I'm getting pretty rotten 3dmark scores with a EVGA 8800 GTX. Heres my hardware, 8800 GTX, 3.0 Pentium D, 2 GB DDR2 @ 667mhz, 500GB SATA HD, Board is a Abit IL9 Pro, 600W coolermax PSU. I tried to OC my vid card, but even at 600 mhz core I would be good and then snow all over the place. Can anyone help please???

3d mark scores:

3dmark - 6680
SM2.0 Score - 2714
HDR/SM3.0 - 3567
CPU - 1448

I know something is bottlenecking me and I have no idea what!

Thanks in advance!

[ed1380]

everything except the 8800gtx. Seriously, it takes an overclocked c2d to keep up with it.

[NokiaNokia]

let me say it again its your cpu.

[xtremedelta]

Originally Posted by ed1380

everything except the 8800gtx. Seriously, it takes an overclocked c2d to keep up with it.

ok,, so because I don't have a c2d i'm doing this badly,, and everything else is no good either

[Chillaxed]

yup, cuz pentium d isnt even as good as an x2 amd, and x2 amd's at 2.8ghz arent as good as a e6300, and a core2duo clocked at 3.6ghz will still be bottlenecking the 8800gtx

[xtremedelta]

so any ideas why I can't overclock my GPU? And you think overclocking the CPU will help any?

[ed1380]

The gpu is already fast. Of cource overclocking the cpu would help, but i don't know by how much.

everything except the 8800gtx.

By saying that I wasn't saying your system is bad, but that the 8800gtx is very powerful

[xtremedelta]

Originally Posted by ed1380

The gpu is already fast. Of cource overclocking the cpu would help, but i don't know by how much.

By saying that I wasn't saying your system is bad, but that the 8800gtx is very powerful

gotcha,, acctually been looking for a way to overclock the 925 ,, my motherboard really does'nt have the features on board

[chronDiggity]

you have a pentium D and you wonder where your bottleneck is? Cmon man...

I had a P4 at 3GHz and an x1800GTO at 700/700. When I upgraded to conroe my 3dmark05 score rose from 7000 to 11,300.

[xtremedelta]

OK !! So last night, I finally bought a E6600, haven't installed it yet, but I am assuming that this might take care of my bottleneck. Any ideas? Also, am I going to need to overclock the CPU still to keep up with the 8800 GPU, or will it do ok out of the box. reason being, is my mobo, only has a auto overclock built in, which pretty much will only give me 100mhz or so. So anyone know how the 8800 will react with the E6600, and will this clear up the bottleneck (most likely)

[ed1380]

The 8800 will still be bottlenecked by an oced conroe, but not so much. What mobo do you have?

[xtremedelta]

Originally Posted by ed1380

The 8800 will still be bottlenecked by an oced conroe, but not so much. What mobo do you have?

not a good one, its a ABIT IL9 PRO. Great mobo for the non overclockers :/ just didn't know that when I bought it. Plus it only supports ddr2 667, so I'm thinking here in the recent future I am getting a gigabyte, or asus that I can mauanlly tweek my fsb.

[ed1380]

all I can say is S3. $110 and I would get it over the 680i (<-buggy)
Great ocer

[xtremedelta]

Originally Posted by ed1380

all I can say is S3. $110 and I would get it over the 680i (<-buggy)
Great ocer

sweet, I acctually built a PC for my friend last night with this board, GA-965G-DS3 (rev. 2.0 / 3.3) and it worked pretty good right out of the box. Is this the board you were talking about,, if so I think I would get it. I did'nt OC anything on it, but I saw the features were there for it, and it looked like it had a CPU recovery tool in the BIOS too.

[ed1380]

The s3 and ds3 are the same, just diferent capacitors. bios is the same.
i don't know what you mean by cpu recovery, the virtual dual bios?

[xtremedelta]

Originally Posted by ed1380

The s3 and ds3 are the same, just diferent capacitors. bios is the same.
i don't know what you mean by cpu recovery, the virtual dual bios?

No, from what I was reading that if the BIOS was overclocked, and the cpu had some error that it was having a issue recovering from, the BIOS would auto revert back to factory defauts, (but I spent a whole 4 min reading the book and looking at the BIOS itself, so I'm not 100 percent sure. Also, you really think that the e6600 is still going to be a bottleneck for the 8800 gpu? How so?

[Apocolipse]

Originally Posted by Chillaxed

yup, cuz pentium d isnt even as good as an x2 amd, and x2 amd's at 2.8ghz arent as good as a e6300, and a core2duo clocked at 3.6ghz will still be bottlenecking the 8800gtx

Only in benchmarks. In games at high res / quality there is no difference between a c2d and x2. And its actually shown that the c2d at high res bottlenecks the carda bit. If you run the amd at 2ghz or 2.7ghz you wil get the exact same in game performance compared to the c2d at say 2.4ghz or 3.4ghz you will have different performance.

[ed1380]

But if he gets a conroe he can later upgrade to 4cores. I've heard that amd's new 4 core will have a difirent socket, if they make one that is

[Apocolipse]

This is true that right now that is a possibility. However I have a bad feeling Intel will change sockets again and require a new chipset As for the AMD haha yeah delays delays! But apparently summer release. And AM2+ and AM3 (the quads) are suposed to be backwards compatible in AM2 sockets. Who knows.

[trismegistus]

That's right.AMD's first series of cpu's with Barcelona core will be for socket AM2.They will require new socket after AMD goes with DDR3 mem.