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Old 02-25-2017, 11:06 AM   #1
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I'm starting to plan a new core build - Questions about DDR4, M.2 and Optane

I'm planning a build around a 1080ti once they are released so I'd like to start by deciding on a processor, then a mobo, then ram.

I'd love to continue using windows 7 on this new build but I have come to grips with the windows 10 environment after using it on my laptop for a while now. Thusly I expect to be running 10.

The primary focus of the computer will be gaming at 2560X1440, I may one day move to an Asus ROG PG348Q which has about 30% more pixels at 3440X1440, if the 1080ti will have the headroom to drive that monitor.

Currently I'm running a 2500k and a 970gtx.

I'm leaning toward a Ryzen 1700 or maybe 1700x. I'll probably wait a month for a new mobo cpu and ram to give early adopter a chance to build and learn from their experiences.

Current Question: I'm a gamer, do I need quad channel ram? Should I be looking into adding Optane memory or M.2 SSD? See post #30.

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Old 02-25-2017, 04:11 PM   #2
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I'm currently on the 1080 with a 6700K @ 4.6 in a new Z270 mobo and in just about any game I can ping the GPU to 100% at 1440P and the CPU is normally around 30-40% at most. So, with that being said, I know you'd be fine on a 6700K which you can nab for about 300 bucks.
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Highly depends on the game though. Battlefield 1 will regularly use all the cores on my processor, in fact I noticed a change (for the better) in how smooth BF1 ran from my 2500K at 4.5GHz to my 6800K at 4.2GHz. 2500K had 16gb of RAM so it wasn't too shabby.

Games and what not from now on will be using more and more cores, right now it looks like Ryzen processors will be a major win on certain aspects for gamers. Of course, don't make a decision until next week after the NDA on reviews expires.


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Old 02-26-2017, 05:12 AM   #4
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I'm currently on the 1080 with a 6700K @ 4.6 in a new Z270 mobo and in just about any game I can ping the GPU to 100% at 1440P and the CPU is normally around 30-40% at most. So, with that being said, I know you'd be fine on a 6700K which you can nab for about 300 bucks.
Do you think the same may hold true for the 6600, or 7600? Maybe the 1700 once it arrives?

I'd love to use a 65w chip in a gaming build. Just don't know it they are there yet.

AMD's 1700 is an unlocked 65w. Intel's 65 watters are all locked I think....

I'm curious as to how Ryzen's single threaded performance will stack up.

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Old 02-26-2017, 05:06 PM   #5
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So far their IPC is very similar to Broadwell. So not far off from where intel is right now. For the price they'll be tough to beat.

And yeah, all R7 processors are unlocked. Not sure how far the 1700 will clock seeing as it's only 65W. May want to spend the $70 more to get a 95W 1700X.

Of course, as I said wait for benchies.


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Old 03-04-2017, 01:20 PM   #6
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And yeah, all R7 processors are unlocked. Not sure how far the 1700 will clock seeing as it's only 65W. May want to spend the $70 more to get a 95W 1700X.
It's not really the price difference that had me interested in the lower wattage cpu, more about heat and the fact I'm a watt miser. All will be revealed soon though eh? Excited.

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Original post updated in bold. Help me select a 1080ti model please.

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I have the STRIX 1080 and I love it. It's completely silent and the fans hardly ever turn on at all so it has good passive cooling as long as your case airflow is well laid out. Even when the fans do turn on, I can't hear them....unless I'm benching and force them to 100%
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Sweet, thanks for the input AT. I didn't realize that strix coolers had the ability to completely spin down, that's great for low power desktop state. I've been leaning strix after reading comparisons of the 1080 strix vs 1080 twin frozr. The ti cooler apparently has 40% more surface area as well.

Now, any advice on a release day purchase success? Bribe a microcenter employee maybe? :-P

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Almost all the coolers now have a quiet mode. I have a Gigabyte G1 Gaming and the fans stop until it gets to a specific temp. Can't go wrong with any version of the card.

EVGA FTW3 would probably be my choice.


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Old 03-12-2017, 08:07 AM   #10
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I'm thinking about this card now.... MSI SeaHawk 1080ti
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Nice man. Honestly tho, with as cool as mine runs, I really don't think the premium of a H2O GPU is worth it unless you plan on modding and over-volting like a mofo. At 100% GPU usage in games a barely break 62*C in an mATX case with almost zero room around the card, hell the front of the card is literally 1/2 inch from my front rad lol
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It really will come down to what the difference in price is between strix and a base model plus water block.
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Yeah, I got my STRIX for a bit less than the FE, so time will tell.
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I'm following this thread too, since I plan on building a new computer this summer. How much ram are you planning on getting?

As far as GPU, I have the MSI Gaming X 1080 and as stated by others, the cooler is very quiet. Fans aren't spinning on it most of the time, I ended up using a custom fan profile because I felt like the default was letting the gpu get too hot before it kicked in. (I think by default fans are motionless until temperature goes over 50C (or 60C I'm forgetting now). Regardless I have mine jump to 100% fan speed fairly early and it's hardly louder than my CoolerMaster 212+ cpu cooler. My Antec P182 is muffling the noise quite well. It's definitely quieter than my EVGA 580 was and on par with my EVGA 980 ACX 2.0 cooler.
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I can't imagine needing more that 16 gigs for any gaming or vr. I'm continuing to think about getting a founders edition and waterblock. From the few sources I've read the ti's are heavily limited by heat when it comes to overclocking. Toms has a review saying that they could maintain 2.1ghz on water with a Titan x block. That gave them a 20% performance gain, which would help with future proofing and keeping me satisfied with my choice once Volta releases.
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dumb question but, why are you trying to jump on a GPU when you're waiting on mobo / considering Ryzen? Or did I miss something?
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A 1080 ti would be a leaps and bounds improvement over my 970 even on my existing platform. I game at 3k and some games are quite hard on the 970. The mobo and proc will just add to that performance boost. If the gpu upgrade alone could get the same results I'd stick there, but I think I'd face limitations with my current setup. Also I know 1080ti will be king for a while so I'm ready to commit. Btw at this point I'm probably going with Intel, Amd's gaming performance with ryzen just doesn't thrill me.
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Hah, I just realized we are pretty close CPU wise. Ya I'm upgrading because I'd like a bit more ram and I think I need a bit more single thread / memory bandwidth. I have a spinny drive (1tb WD Black) for my games and that poor thing is chugging hard. Most games it's ok but Mass Effect Andromeda is slaying it. Loading cutscenes or moving into new areas massacres my FPS and the drive goes from a fairly quiet grr to a louder GRRgCLKGKLGK. Playing GTA V and other games it's fine, I don't know why Mass Effect is so bad. I game at 4k on my TV in the bedroom.
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Try running a resource monitor on your ram to see your usage. Also afterburner has resource monitoring for all your gpu components, then you can check v ram usage also. It's possible your running out of physical memory, not likely running out of v ram.
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Try running a resource monitor on your ram to see your usage. Also afterburner has resource monitoring for all your gpu components, then you can check v ram usage also. It's possible your running out of physical memory, not likely running out of v ram.
Oh, I meant RAM, I'm totally ok with Vram

How much RAM are you getting for your next build 16 or 32? 2 or 4 sticks?
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