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Old 02-07-2013, 08:15 AM   #1
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Need super low profile RAM, has anyone tried these? (Ordered MV-3V4G3D/US)

So i have installed a new heatsink and fan, the Thermaltake Frio Extreme. I ran into a couple of issues with is massive size and had to do a last minute orientation change to accommodate my tall RAM. Currently i am running patriot vipers, and i was looking into getting some low profile RAM so i could mount the heatsink properly with the fans blowing out the rear of the case instead of blowing out the top of the case.

Just wondering if anyone has tried these yet they look really perfect for my application with their tiny size.

Tracers
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148656

Sport
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148662

I haven't used a set of Crucials since the D9GMH DDR2 ages and wondering if these are worth a shot. I don't need them to overclock well but that would be a plus.

Anyone got any input?


Below in order i have pictured, my current RAM and then the last 2 are the possible choices i might get.





EDIT: 2-8-13 - Went back in stock at microcenter and ordered online since i won't make it to the store this weekend. I ordered the MV-3V4G3D/US

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Old 02-07-2013, 08:17 AM   #2
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What mobo cpu will this be for?
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Old 02-07-2013, 08:21 AM   #3
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Its going to go in my ASrock 970DE3/U3S3 rig in sig and will be used with a new cpu which is yet undecided in my other thread. Possibly a FX-6300 or FX-8320, or something else.

I just really need that extra room to mount my heatsink with its giant foot print and dual 140mm fans.
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Old 02-07-2013, 08:39 AM   #4
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http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Electr...s=samsung+ddr3
These are world famous for being great overclockers.
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Old 02-07-2013, 08:52 AM   #5
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http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Electr...s=samsung+ddr3
These are world famous for being great overclockers.
I was just going to link those. People get awesome overclocks out of those. They are the go to choice for low profile ram.
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Old 02-07-2013, 08:55 AM   #6
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Thanks for the Samsung link i will surely consider those side by side of the Crucials. They are a tad more expensive than i would like but they might be the right item for me.
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Old 02-07-2013, 10:10 AM   #7
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In general, the Tracers are better than the Sport... and the Samsung lie between the Sport and Tracers... Especially on AMD, the Cruicial Tracers will retain tighter timings... I remember when the Samsung were $35, then they were a good deal... now even Newegg has them priced around the same price as the Tracers. It seems like every time that Newegg sells out of the Samsung, when they restock then its $5 more expensive
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Old 02-07-2013, 12:37 PM   #8
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I'm leaning towards the tracers right now for a few reasons, namely because i might be ordering a processor at the same time, and i like the heatspreaders too.

To help me fully decide though does anyone know the stock timings of that samsung stuff? Will it do CAS-8 @ 1600?
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Old 02-07-2013, 01:09 PM   #9
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Those samsung sticks are amazing. I picked up a set from newegg around blackfriday and they clock pretty well.
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Old 02-07-2013, 02:06 PM   #10
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http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Electr...s=samsung+ddr3
These are world famous for being great overclockers.

These stix are WIN

The Crucials are no match
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Old 02-07-2013, 02:31 PM   #11
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These stix are WIN

The Crucials are no match

CAS-7 @ 1600 possible?
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Old 02-07-2013, 03:21 PM   #12
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This makes me want to get both and bench them head to head... rom what i have read in reviews, the crucials will retain tighter timings, but wont OC as high... samsungs would be better for intel, but crucial may be better for amd.
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Old 02-07-2013, 03:41 PM   #13
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I can't speak to what they would do on AMD, is that what this is going on, should have read closer

I agree with EMU, doubt they can get that low but they may do 7 at 1600 speeds, where they shine is top speed and they scale with voltage very well, great IC's for Ivy and Sandy

Sorry I am AMD illiterate these days .... wish they would drop a heartbreaker on Intel one of these days
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Here are some reviews for the Cruicial... http://www.techpowerup.com/reviewdb/.../DDR3/Crucial/ Just take a browse through, some show voltage scaling...

Taken from: http://www.thinkcomputers.org/crucia...-kit-review/3/

While its not the best results that I have seen for these sticks, it seems to be an average OC at 1.5v (remember these are 1.35v sticks).

For the most part, 1866 can run with 9-9-9 timings at stock volts... with overvolting, you may be able to get then at 8-8-8...
Most of the reviews are done on Intel... so, its difficult to see how they will scale on AMD.


taken from http://pro-clockers.com/memory/2634-...w.html?start=4

http://www.funkykit.com/component/co...t.html?start=3

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The Vishera can crank out some high memory frequencies, the sammies might be better suited for it than the Thubans etc.
In my own experience I have some Gskill and Geil kits that seem to do well when running 2000 mhz @ cas 9 or 10 1T with the Vish.
The geil kit is a 1600 mhz evoce and is a real over achiever . ( too tall for your application however)
If you think you want to get a 8350 however, you will be better off ditching your large air cooler for a 240mm radiator watercooling set up ( could keep your ram that way). There isn't an air cooler made that will cool them at full load above 4.8 ghz. The Thermaltake extreme 2 all in one rig was on sale for $75 after rebate earlier this week , I have one and really like it.

The samsungs seem to be able to hit 1600 at cas 7 1800 cas 8 2000 cas 9 and 2200 cas 10 with a bulldozer pushing them on a good board.
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The Vishera can crank out some high memory frequencies, the sammies might be better suited for it than the Thubans etc.
In my own experience I have some Gskill and Geil kits that seem to do well when running 2000 mhz @ cas 9 or 10 1T with the Vish.
The geil kit is a 1600 mhz evoce and is a real over achiever . ( too tall for your application however)
If you think you want to get a 8350 however, you will be better off ditching your large air cooler for a 240mm radiator watercooling set up ( could keep your ram that way). There isn't an air cooler made that will cool them at full load above 4.8 ghz. The Thermaltake extreme 2 all in one rig was on sale for $75 after rebate earlier this week , I have one and really like it.

The samsungs seem to be able to hit 1600 at cas 7 1800 cas 8 2000 cas 9 and 2200 cas 10 with a bulldozer pushing them on a good board.

Have you seen my heatsink? It's capable of doing what I want and that that is about 4.40 ghz if I get a Vishera.

I think i want to try the samsungs but I wonder if their rma process is as smooth as crucial? I know with ram you can expect errors sometimes even at stock.
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Have you seen my heatsink? It's capable of doing what I want and that that is about 4.40 ghz if I get a Vishera.

I think i want to try the samsungs but I wonder if their rma process is as smooth as crucial? I know with ram you can expect errors sometimes even at stock.
Yes , I've seen it, enormous thing. Should be ok if all you are going for is 4.4 on an 8350 , however the 8320's tend to take more juice to run at a given overclock so you may be cutting it close if you choose it. I haven't seen an 8350 that can run ibt or occt above 4.8 ghz on air. I've seen people claim they can, then the never seem to be able to back that claim up. I think air just can't transfer the heat fast enough.
As for samsungs rma... i really haven't a clue , never had to deal with them at all.
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If i can get the Samsung RAM in stock at microcenter at the same time as i buy a processor i think i will go with that. If i buy a new processor i will use the $50 off any compatible motherboard to get a free or cheap mobo to keep as backup or re-sell later.

My next question is.... Do people run these kits above 1.50v or am i asking for trouble above that? I know some DDR3 kits are spec'd for much higher voltages like 1.65v , but i would probably never overvolt my RAM that far unless its been proven to run a long time there.
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If i can get the Samsung RAM in stock at microcenter at the same time as i buy a processor i think i will go with that. If i buy a new processor i will use the $50 off any compatible motherboard to get a free or cheap mobo to keep as backup or re-sell later.

My next question is.... Do people run these kits above 1.50v or am i asking for trouble above that? I know some DDR3 kits are spec'd for much higher voltages like 1.65v , but i would probably never overvolt my RAM that far unless its been proven to run a long time there.
People have been able to reach 2133 speeds on around 1.6v with the samsungs
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People have been able to reach 2133 speeds on around 1.6v with the samsungs
Sounds like more than i would ever need. I was going to be okay just buying a low profile kit to run stock DDR3-1600 @ CAS-8 or 9 but knowing i may be able to get a good overclock is going to be fun.

Additional Comment:

The price just jumped massively on Amazon and its out of stock at microcenter now.

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Electr...s=samsung+ddr3


http://www.microcenter.com/product/3...emory_Modules#




CRAP: Just went to order the sammies back at amazon and didn't notice it said they were on backorder so i had to cancel the order. Looks like i am going with the Crucial tracers @ newegg.






EDIT: 2-8-13 - Went back in stock at microcenter and ordered online since i won't make it to the store this weekend.

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