Sabertooth 990FX R2.0/965 OC Stability Help

[chartiet]

Ill try 2800MHz (hopefully no more cpu/nb v required), do the RAM, and try to get as much FSB (~210 at the highest) as I can without upping the voltage anymore. I dont think I wanna go any higher with the temps (even though folding and gaming doesn't get as high as prime). Normal at load temps around 45c - 48c would be nice. Ill keep everyone posted.

Additional Comment:

H220 fans are intake with fans pulling air into case through rad... I was expecting the fans to be orientated stock as exhaust? Is the CM HAF (1) 140mm rear exhaust only enough? Temps are still fine, about the same under load but A LOT more quiet! Fan thread here;

http://forums.extremeoverclocking.co...24#post4082024

[moosteve]

the concept is the air outside the case is a lower temp and will cool more efficiently than air from inside the case.

don't you also have the top 200mm fan running on the case? between that and the 140mm, it should be plenty, especially if you are already seeing about the same situation.

of course, the very best answer is experiment for yourself with different fan orientations. then you will know for sure what works best for your situation.

[chartiet]

The fans I have running (and flow directions) are as follows;

Front = (1) 230mm fan as intake.
Side = (1) 230mm fan as intake.
Top = (2) 120mm AIO fans w/ the rad below (refer to pic). Flow direction is into case (intake). The installation of the AIO required the removal of the 230mm top fan, which was exhaust.
Back = (1) 140mm fan as exhaust.

The rad is mounted to the top of the case, per most of the pics and installs I have seen for this cooler. The front mount is an option I suppose but going with the heat rises concept (which in the case of the top fans running as intake, doesn’t make sense for the position I have chosen).

Does the CM HAF offer provisions to mount the fan/rad assembly at the front, behind the fan, where the hard drive bays are? I don’t think there is mounting provisions for (2) 120mm fans. Is this optimal compared to the top mounting? Also, I forgot to check and see if it is possible to re-position the pre-installed fans one way or the other (I think you can).

Per the attached compatibility pic from the HAF 932 from Swiftech website, the mounting is shown as top. Also attached are pics of the case itself with the fans and interior shown, fan specs for the case, and the install instruction snipped from the manual.

My only concern is that I have removed 230mm of top exhaust only leaving the rear 140mm as exhaust for the entire case.

Another thing to note is with the block orientated per the instructions, the block needed to be rotated 90 degrees due to the fact the block coolant intakes impede over the first DIMM slot rendering it unusable. Refer to mobo pic attached and see how close the slots are to the cpu pad. Not a big deal at all and Swiftech notes the orientation of the block doesn’t affect performance what so ever and can be adjusted to fit any application/mobo.

Lastly, whichever orientation/flow I choose, Ill be adding another set of fans for push/pull (intake or exhaust).

[moosteve]

Originally Posted by chartiet

The fans I have running (and flow directions) are as follows;

Front = (1) 230mm fan as intake.
Side = (1) 230mm fan as intake.
Top = (2) 120mm AIO fans w/ the rad below (refer to pic). Flow direction is into case (intake). The installation of the AIO required the removal of the 230mm top fan, which was exhaust.
Back = (1) 140mm fan as exhaust.

The rad is mounted to the top of the case, per most of the pics and installs I have seen for this cooler. The front mount is an option I suppose but going with the heat rises concept (which in the case of the top fans running as intake, doesn’t make sense for the position I have chosen).

Does the CM HAF offer provisions to mount the fan/rad assembly at the front, behind the fan, where the hard drive bays are? I don’t think there is mounting provisions for (2) 120mm fans. Is this optimal compared to the top mounting? Also, I forgot to check and see if it is possible to re-position the pre-installed fans one way or the other (I think you can).

Per the attached compatibility pic from the HAF 932 from Swiftech website, the mounting is shown as top. Also attached are pics of the case itself with the fans and interior shown, fan specs for the case, and the install instruction snipped from the manual.

My only concern is that I have removed 230mm of top exhaust only leaving the rear 140mm as exhaust for the entire case.

Another thing to note is with the block orientated per the instructions, the block needed to be rotated 90 degrees due to the fact the block coolant intakes impede over the first DIMM slot rendering it unusable. Refer to mobo pic attached and see how close the slots are to the cpu pad. Not a big deal at all and Swiftech notes the orientation of the block doesn’t affect performance what so ever and can be adjusted to fit any application/mobo.

Lastly, whichever orientation/flow I choose, Ill be adding another set of fans for push/pull (intake or exhaust).

i have a HAF as well... great case to explore liquid cooling. i just forgot with my comment that the rad would be in place of the top fan. i have my 3 x 120 rad on the exterior.
first off, this is how the manufacturer recommends set up, and if your temps are good, then its working. do you think they should/could be better?
how are you thinking of adding two more fans? to the rad? on the outside of the case?
since this setup differs from other AIO kit in that you can actually disconnect the tubing, could you not also explore running the tubes outside the back of the HAF's tube holes and mounting the rad outside the case?( though this would most likely involve longer tubing, i would assume.)

[chartiet]

Also, need to get Crysis 3 so why not get a new card too. Thinking 7950 or 7970, 2GB, 3GB, or higher? Best Bang for Buck! Thread at;

http://forums.extremeoverclocking.co...d.php?t=368570

Please add your input there. Thank You!!

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Update: The water block cant be rotated 90 degrees due to the in/out lets being in the way of the AMD brackets. One of the them doesstick out as much, meaning I install the water block 180 degrees from the install pics and it pushes on the RAM stick a little but not enought to be unusable... stilll working on pics and temps, etc.. rite now at oc, the idle temps are 33 - 35, ul temps are 46 to 49... with pump rpm at 2586 and the case fans all intakes except the rear one, which has been explained above.

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Originally Posted by moosteve

i have a HAF as well... great case to explore liquid cooling. i just forgot with my comment that the rad would be in place of the top fan. i have my 3 x 120 rad on the exterior.
first off, this is how the manufacturer recommends set up, and if your temps are good, then its working. do you think they should/could be better?
how are you thinking of adding two more fans? to the rad? on the outside of the case?
since this setup differs from other AIO kit in that you can actually disconnect the tubing, could you not also explore running the tubes outside the back of the HAF's tube holes and mounting the rad outside the case?( though this would most likely involve longer tubing, i would assume.)

No, i think temps are fine, ul temps at higher oc are better than my H80i.

My rad is mounted inside case at top.

The (2) extra fans would be for push/pull, on the bottom of the rad, inside the case. But, as mentioned, the cost of (2) more Helix fans and shipping, $30 total, may not be worth the 2 - 3 degrees.

I would prefer to keep everything inside the case

[chartiet]

I got this while stressing a different fan/rad setup. Any ideas...? Its made it through nights with no errors.

running again

[chartiet]

I was folding through last night and this morning I awoke to a windows login screen, windows experienced an unexpected shutdown...

Things have been fine lately, gets thru nights of folding and prime, no issues, was gaming great, etc.. Did I break something lol?

Now stability issues. Bios settings attached;

[chartiet]

upped cpu v and cpu/nb v 1 step and still restarts windows after 5 - 10 min of folding. Haven't had enough time to run memtest or prime for a long time, will tonight..

is it common to all of the sudden loose a stable overclock?

also, with egg on my face I admit I turned pc on rite after h220 install and forgot to connect 8-pin atx 12v cpu power cord... I had to flip psu switch, connect cord to mobo and then restarted. Was playing games and everyday stuff but then ran prime, folded, and issues started.

As I understand it, not connecting 8-pin atx and turning on comp doesn't hurt anything? Correct?

Additional Comment:

separate thread for same issue that is now closed for ref only

continued on this current thread, more stressing tonight...

[Mr.Scott]

As I understand it, not connecting 8-pin atx and turning on comp doesn't hurt anything? Correct?

Correct .

[chartiet]

possible cpu degradation as shrimp mentioned in other thread, check it out and let me know what your thoughts are

[Mr.Scott]

My thoughts........not enough CPU voltage.

[chartiet]

i kinda agree BUT it would cram through everything I threw at it until now, then problems, first thing that jumps to mind is that it was never "stable" to begin with, but, it was a lot more stable than it is now, even if it wasn't fully stable, i could pass custom blend through the night, then the one time i ran it, it errors right away, that's why I thought something else may be wrong

thinking to myself "what happened overnight besides the 8-pin cable thingy that changed my stability?"

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this is all just kinda speculation until i get back home and tinker, im at work at the end of a freakin 80+ hr work week, prob another 10 - 12 hrs tomorrow, i hate projects, job projects that is lol, i love these types of projects

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a bump in both cpu/nb and cpu v is working better, still need to stress more

[Mr.Scott]

Watch the temps. They're gonna go up.

[chartiet]

They barely did, i think they move more with ambient than anything, when I see them start to get up, I check the t-stat and see my wife turned the heat up to 75+f lol. I'm on an outside corner so it doesn't have that big of an effect but nonetheless... With bumps in cpu and cpu/nb v's, large fft's for 12+ hours only got as high as 51c (with the heat turned up), Ill overnight again with the a web page open, OCCT, Prime95, and F@H running and see what happens, i think with the bumps im ok again, temps considered... Ive never seen the temps get higher than 53c and that was once, heat turned up, under the desk with no good airflow... they should be ok (?) weel see.

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with v's at where they are at 4.2, she crashed after 2min with occt, i dropped er down to 4.1 and she ran for an hour, temp at 50c. will stress further

[CountMike]

Just got myself the same processor but on a GA MoBo. I followed your posts and now I'm interested how's yours doing. Mine is sitting at 4.1GhZ for now, awaiting new cooler, but it did not blink at 4.2, only the temps got too high for comfort.