So, if the ME3 extended cut is live...

[CybrSlydr]

Then how in the world do I get it? I refreshed my games in Origin and I haven't gotten it.

Anyone got it yet?

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EDIT: Well, I just closed Origin, restarted it, did the "Update Game" and nothing happened, but mysteriously the Extended Cut has appeared on the Add-Ons page for ME3 in Origin.

Downloading now.

[Scubar]

Let us know if its worth the download and play through again.

Don't post any spoilers though plz

[CybrSlydr]

Originally Posted by Scubar

Let us know if its worth the download and play through again.

Don't post any spoilers though plz

If my reading is right, all you have to do is play through the final mission - from when Shepard goes up the shaft of light to the Citadel.

The addon now shows as "Unreleased" on my Addons page. Grrr.... Probably have to wait until some-time-pacific to get it. ARRRGH!

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EDIT: It unlocked at 12:00pm. Downloading nao.

At 58kbps... lol 8hrs to go then.

[lexandro]

Typical of Origin to be frank. Its download rates are atrocious. Its like EA just cant be bothered putting up enough servers to let people download it faster.

[Sephiroth]

I figured this **** would happen.

I posted a thread just about this ****ing problem on the BSN and all of the idiots over there must have started at me like I was joking 'lol wut not enough servers? blizzard-type launch for this DLC? NEVAR!'

tyvm asshats.

[sysigy]

Downloading now, no speed issues for me, am maxing out my ADSL connection @ 8Mb/s (no I can't get fibre optic where I live )... about to begin my final play through start to finish.

[CybrSlydr]

It's downloaded and installed - about to find out fellas.

[sysigy]

Originally Posted by CybrSlydr

It's downloaded and installed - about to find out fellas.

I couldn't be bothered to play through again...

Don't worry I won't give away any spoilers, all I shall say is... I'm happy with that... we all know they're not changing the crappy A, B or C ending but what they have done I feel is suitable.

It also seems that my save that had 50% multiplier and just under 5000 military strength now gives me the breath at the end of the 'kill all synthetics ending' so my Shepard now seems to be alive which probably means that as long as you've got over 4000 military strength and 50% galactic readiness multiplier you 'should' get the best possible ending if you choose to kill the Reapers.

[CybrSlydr]

The ending is certainly improved, no doubt. Things make more sense and there are a few poignant moments as well. It actually made me reconsider what my choice would be as one now seems much preferable to the other.

All in all... I'm pleased. It's not the "be-all, end-all" of endings, but much improved over the previous schlock.

[sysigy]

Originally Posted by CybrSlydr

The ending is certainly improved, no doubt. Things make more sense and there are a few poignant moments as well. It actually made me reconsider what my choice would be as one now seems much preferable to the other.

All in all... I'm pleased. It's not the "be-all, end-all" of endings, but much improved over the previous schlock.

That's how I feel also... not perfect but far more closure.

I quite like the synthesis ending now.

You can also choose to not choose one of the A, B or C endings and get a 'D' which includes a different secret ending after the credits.

[capitolray]

May be interesting, I did 3 full play throughs -mainly Paragon, less Paragon and lotta Renegade. Saved all of the saves to another drive. Have 5000 and saw the "breath" ending on save #3. So I can reload and finish out and get some different closures to my saves. Might be interesting. At least I have an incentive to finish with some more "closure" to look at..lol

[lexandro]

Originally Posted by sysigy

That's how I feel also... not perfect but far more closure.

I quite like the synthesis ending now.

You can also choose to not choose one of the A, B or C endings and get a 'D' which includes a different secret ending after the credits.

I get the feeling that BioWare wanted synthesis to be the "correct" ending,

Synthesis - Due to the sacrafice made by shepard everyone else in the universe is better off, synthetics & organics. Peaceful co-existance and a new golden age of life in an all new combined form, removing any chance of the cycle repeating. Quarians no longer requires suits, and are actively engaging with Geth as friends. Joker is no longer a cripple and Eve has true emotions. Life evolves to a new higher plane of existance where disease is no longer a factor, and even death may be conquered. With the vast stores of knowledge the galaxy can be shaped to better accomodate this new existance.

The destruction ending while allowing shepard to live is the selfish choice and of the 3 "perfect" endings leaves the universe in the worst condition of the 3. It means the cycle could continue at any point in the far future.

The control ending is very sinister and essentially puts shepard in place of the "star child". Again its a selfish motive, and it smacks of a totalitarian existance constantly under the "thumb" of shepard and the reapers. Even though the reasons for doing so are honest and just, it leaves the galaxy in the precarious position of shepard the "construct" starting to lose touch with what made him/her human in the first place and the human emotions involved. Essentially the reapers control the galaxy, with shepard at the reigns and everyone else in the minority a threat.

[Sephiroth]

I would say I'm more happy than displeased. I didnt like how they still managed to leave all of the characters in open-ended conclusions.. certinally there's headcannon to consider but jesus, the whole purpose of this thing was to provide closure and details.

Overall, the best parts were the L/I parts, and I was so fustrated after having to play through 2 hours to see those parts (and the months of waiting for it) that I couldn't bring myself to enjoy it as much as I wanted to. I cried on the OE goodbyes to kadian.. in EC I finnaly got what I thought was missing, and I bearly had any reaction.


Too little, too late imo. As cliche as it sounds, if this is how it had orginally ended, I don't think there would have been even 1/4 of the out-cry from all this nonsense.

Enough of the spoiler tags.. this is open-DLC.

Synthesis - Due to the sacrafice made by shepard everyone else in the universe is better off, synthetics & organics. Peaceful co-existance and a new golden age of life in an all new combined form, removing any chance of the cycle repeating. Quarians no longer requires suits, and are actively engaging with Geth as friends. Joker is no longer a cripple and Eve has true emotions. Life evolves to a new higher plane of existance where disease is no longer a factor, and even death may be conquered. With the vast stores of knowledge the galaxy can be shaped to better accomodate this new existance.

synthesis is what the reapers and saren wanted. It's the worst ending imo. The whole theme of all 3 games has been equality, freedom of choice and the bringing together of intergalatic species for a singular cause, in mass effect 3 Javik tells you specificly that the protheans were defeated because they weren't diverse enough and couldn't come together to fight the reapers. Synthesis is a grotesque solution to the problem. It removes freedom of choice, it removes diversity. It's the worst(from a philosophical standpoint) ending imo. I'll also hint on the fact that mortality is what makes us human. When you take that away what point is there to anything?

The destruction ending while allowing shepard to live is the selfish choice and of the 3 "perfect" endings leaves the universe in the worst condition of the 3. It means the cycle could continue at any point in the far future.

The destruction ending is a slap in the face to the faliable logic the star child presents. I really dislike the fact that EDI and the geth must suffer the consequences of the retarted logic the creators and reapers present, but clearly they're in the wrong here, and imo the other 2 choices present worse consequences than the (temporary) genocide of an entire race. Infact, the only anti-synthetics tones in the entire series came from mass effect 1 with the luna AI and the citadel AI. In ME2, unshackling EDI SAVES the normandy crew. What tones were there in ME3? EDI refusing to shut-down from cerberus commands because she was more loyal to the crew? Give me a break Bioware. And what *did* cerberus do.. they made EVA, which followed it's every command right up until EDI took over her body. (no rebelling there..)
One of the themes of Mass effect 3 has been that synthetics *are* people. They *do* have a non-organics crushing future. Did the Geth try to invade the entire galaxy before Saren? No. Did a group of Geth still believe peace could be achieved? yes. Did the geth allow the quarians to live even after they tried wiping the geth out? YES.
Other points to consider are;
a) EDI has evolved into a sentient being capable of putting other humans interest before herself. She specificly tells you she needs to come on the cronos mission (and then saves your life) she specificlly tells you that she's in love with Jeff and would die for him
b) the Geth's story is obviously not what we've been told. It's obvious that the quarians were responsible for the war, and that the geth are not the horrible monsters (as evidenced from Legion in ME2) we were once told they were, and if you save both of them, they welcome the quarians back to rannock, they even help them to start adapting to the climate and re-build structures there too.

That brings me to my main issue here. This starbrat still sucks. His logic sucks, his explination is more detailed, but it still sucks.
They're not killing people and creating the problem they claim to be solving? Are you kidding me? The fact of the matter is, they kill a lot of people and harvest some of them. Maybe it would be better if they explained the harvest relationship with reapers, but I simply have a hard time thinking that being disolved alive into a grey goo in an agonizing death (as protrayed in ME2) is a good thing

The control ending is very sinister and essentially puts shepard in place of the "star child". Again its a selfish motive, and it smacks of a totalitarian existance constantly under the "thumb" of shepard and the reapers. Even though the reasons for doing so are honest and just, it leaves the galaxy in the precarious position of shepard the "construct" starting to lose touch with what made him/her human in the first place and the human emotions involved. Essentially the reapers control the galaxy, with shepard at the reigns and everyone else in the minority a threat.

I would have to agree here. The control ending is the darkest of the 4. It's the worst compromise in that you're assuming that a human consciousness can adequately remain in touch with reality and what made them human without acutally being human. Weirdly, the immediate consequences provide the best outcome however, but the nature of the background music suggest that this will not last, or that Shepard may become curropt over time.


IMO,
The reject ending is Morally the best.
Shepard didn't doom the Galaxy. The player did not doom the galaxy. The Reapers did. The Star Child did.

So when Shepard shoots the Star Child and rejects its logic, the blame for dooming the galaxy does not lie with Shepard. The fault lies squarely with the Reapers and the Star Child - because they're the ones committing the acts of mass-murder based on stupid logic.

Even the argument that "Shepard could still have prevented this by choosing Red, Blue, or Green, and is therefore partially culpable!" holds little water, because Shepard and the rest of the galaxy shouldn't have been put in the middle of that dilemma in the first place. If the Reapers and their creators weren't a bunch of ******s (in every definition of the word) acting based on stupid prejudices (synthetics and organics will never get along!), there would be no need for Red, Blue, or Green.

At most, what Shep can be accused of is failing to make moral compromises in the name of the "Greater Good", which will certainly hold water in utilatarian value systems. But even here, can the alternatives be really described as viable?

[sysigy]

Woooaaahhh, just completed a renegade play through the Quarians were wiped out by the Geth and Tali killed herself.

In all my previous play throughs I've managed to align both Quarian and Geth...