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Old 09-05-2014, 11:30 PM   #1
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cheapest/best case for internal water?

id like to get a case that is good for mounting rads internaly im trying to find best priced one that can do that, thanks
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Old 09-05-2014, 11:58 PM   #2
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The 830 is a nice choice
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Old 09-06-2014, 12:08 AM   #3
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i forget who makes the 830? so i can look it up, thanks
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Old 09-06-2014, 08:38 AM   #4
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I think the 830 is NZXT. If you are not sure how much you need, read the two water-cooling stickies on Beginning and Parts.

I have some links in the Water-cooling parts sticky, section 13 near the bottom: http://forums.extremeoverclocking.co...d.php?t=354844. There are smaller cases that hold two 120.2. Perhaps the best cases if the budget allows are Case Labs. Those are awesome and what I would buy if I bought again.

There are probably new cases I missed and maybe a search for "PC cases water-cooling" or similar may turn up some new links. But the links in the sticky reflect what people told us in the threads worked pretty well. I use a HAF 932, which will take a 120.3 up top and perhaps another 120.2 inside if you are clever. I just attach another 120.4 on the back with a bracket for a 120.7 total. Works great but not all internal. Good luck.
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Old 09-06-2014, 10:49 AM   #5
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well, i just plan to cool the cpu with it EDIT there does not seem to be a nzxt 830
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Old 09-06-2014, 04:40 PM   #6
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The Switch can do 120.5 bolt on out of the box

It is not to hard on the wallet either

If cost is of little concern as Music states CaseLabs makes some nice stuff designed for water cooling
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Old 09-06-2014, 04:56 PM   #7
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-005-_-Product someone told me this is good for water

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The Switch can do 120.5 bolt on out of the box

It is not to hard on the wallet either

If cost is of little concern as Music states CaseLabs makes some nice stuff designed for water cooling
oh the nzxt switch

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Old 09-07-2014, 08:06 AM   #8
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Switch 810 is the one. Sorry to get confused on the model number - thought there may be a new one. Here is the site: http://www.nzxt.com/product/detail/1...-810-case.html

There is a link to to a Phanteks in the sticky. Might want to do a search on "images" to see what it looks like inside the case. Also it helpful to read reviews before ordering as not everyone agrees. It also helps to know what you are cooling. Cooling a quad-core Intel CPU with one graphics card is far different than an AMD chip with several graphics cards. Good luck.
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Old 09-07-2014, 09:13 AM   #9
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In my opinion, the Phanteks seem to offer A LOT for a low price. Prob the best bang for buck.

I may suggest that you really think hard about what you’re going for in terms of water cooling now, and in the future. Think rads and reservoirs, try to nail down your hardware, and then choose a case that will house all that stuff. Picking a case first, then finding out what you want to do cooling wise and having it not fit in the case sucks.

My opinion, a Corsair 750D, 800D, Air 540, Phanteks, NZXT, Fractal Design are all good cases for under $200. I’d say for a decent case that will house at least 120.4 or 120.5, you be spending ~$150.

What are you thinking of cooling and what hardware do you want to cool? Once we know that, we can look at cases for least amount of money.
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Old 09-07-2014, 10:45 AM   #10
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Intel 3770k OC Sapphire R9 280X-Dual-X, at present time i just plan to cool the cpu
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Old 09-07-2014, 11:21 AM   #11
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Ok, what are your upgrade plans? The future CPU requirements will be pretty constant, but, the GPU upgrade plans can be all over the place. Do you ever plan to do SLI/Xfire? Plan to get a beastly card like a 780ti or a 290? Etc. Usually, a 120.3 for the CPU will be more than enough with quiet speed (<1800rpm) fans. Anything <1000rpm will be ~silent. For the GPU's, a top tier card will need at least a 120.3/card. For just the 280x, a 120.2 may be adequate. Id say for a OC'd CPU + a single 280x, a 120.5 or 120.6 with <1800rpm fans will be required. Also, I assume single loop, so the rad's will need to handle the CPU+GPU.

Again, if you haven't done so already, read musicfan's stickys, in my opinion, they are very good and full of all the info you need to pre-plan, get dangerous, and be ready to present a draft solution to be properly vetted prior to purchase.

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For the CPU (3770k OC'd maybe hits no more than ~150 watts), a 120.2 Alphacool ST30 + Swiftech 120mm Helix fans (1800rpm) would be adequate (can diss. up to ~160w). For the GPU (280x TDP of 250w, OC'd even more), you'll need at least a 120.3. A 120.3 Alphacool ST30 can do about 242w with 1800rpm fans, a Alphacool UT60, 60mm thick can do about 269w with 1800rpm fans. Higher density rads than the Aplacool ST30 or UT60, can handle even more watts at 30mm thick but require higher speed fans to push the air through. In my opinion, <1000rpm is silent/quiet, 1000rpm - 1800rpm can get swooshy, and >1800 are audible/loud. If you don't mind the noise or wear headphones, then its as bad of an issue. A fan controller or PWM fans can be turned down for daily tasks can turned up for stressing and gaming. All this info can be found in music's stickys.

Good luck, have fun, ask questions.

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Old 09-07-2014, 11:24 AM   #12
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i might get a Intel 5820 but my plans are same graphics card for a while and single card only no SLI/XFIRE
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Old 09-07-2014, 11:38 AM   #13
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OK, if you go the 5820, you may need a 120.3. Im not aware of the heat on those. Read above again, Im done editing now lol . Other will most certainly jump in as well and they have a lot more experience than I do.
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Old 09-07-2014, 01:00 PM   #14
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-005-_-Product one of the comments said this.... - case panels are removable with screw, not rivets
- up to 420mm rad support up top
- 200mm fan support in the top as well
- best watercooling potential under $200
- great cable management features
- fan hub that transforms 3-pin fans to pwm
- modular HDD cages
- SSD mounting brackets
- removable psu cover
- pump/res mounting locations
- full dust protection
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Old 09-07-2014, 07:17 PM   #15
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I was about to order the Enthoo Pro, but got the Fractal Arc Mini R2 instead since I want a smaller size case that can pack a lot in. Starting to work on that build this week...

The Enthoo Pro has everything that I would want/need in a mid sized case. I dont have space for a large case. For its size, the Enthoo Pro has a lot of space to put radiator/watercooling parts. And it has an excellent price point, and is quite stylish. If I didnt have a large midtower HAF-XM already, I would have gotten the Enthoo despite using a mATX board... It even comes with a PWM splitter, and GREAT cable management.

I never cared much for the NZXT styling on many of their cases. I have a NZXT Rogue that I have had for 5+ years, but I dont care for their Phantom line at all (bro has an original Phantom). There is something about their non symmetric angles that bothers me...
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Old 09-08-2014, 01:48 PM   #16
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Switch 810 is the one. Sorry to get confused on the model number - thought there may be a new one. Here is the site: http://www.nzxt.com/product/detail/1...-810-case.html

There is a link to to a Phanteks in the sticky. Might want to do a search on "images" to see what it looks like inside the case. Also it helpful to read reviews before ordering as not everyone agrees. It also helps to know what you are cooling. Cooling a quad-core Intel CPU with one graphics card is far different than an AMD chip with several graphics cards. Good luck.

No, my bad posted the wrong model number, getting old

was pointing to the Switch
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Old 11-09-2014, 08:09 PM   #17
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Another contender: Corsair Air 540. I've been researching tons of cases to decide if I should reuse my current Antec case, or if I should move on to newer things. What I stumbled upon is a brilliant case that can support a ton of radiators internally.

Due to the PSU being behind the motherboard tray, the cable management becomes automatic with almost no effort required. Every review I've seen of the thing has everyone saying that it's hands down the easiest case they've ever built a system inside of, and due to the design, it has room for a TON of radiators, all internal. Only downside I can see is the vertical 5.25" bays, and square footprint that takes up more real estate on the floor of your office.

But what really got me interested was the huge thread I stumbled upon full of pictures of completed rigs in this case. Check it out! http://www.overclock.net/t/1404897/o...s-club-gallery

EDIT: example of one with two 2x120 radiators inside of it with tons of clearance everywhere (not my rig--it's a pic from that pictures thread)
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Old 11-10-2014, 08:32 AM   #18
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I too will post in the old tread.
Second on the Corsair Carbide Air 540. Here is my rig. Sorry for poor quality, lighting in my room is not good for a camera phone.

Before I installed the EVGA 1300w
http://imageshack.com/a/img538/649/HkhKGZ.jpg
Sorry for some reason I turned the phone.

After, but showing the back of the case.
http://imageshack.com/a/img903/690/DIFVGP.jpg
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