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Old 06-27-2004, 12:06 PM   #21
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you sure can, but, you have to go through quite a lot to actually do so. for example, the inittab is like nowhere, so you're stuck booting in graphical. kind of sucks, doesnt it?
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Old 06-27-2004, 12:10 PM   #22
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Unfortunately that is true, but just like any other distro you can fine tune it just how you like it. You can configure things to startup, aswell as downloading the compilers with the package updater(Or so I have heard)

Just presenting a counterpoint.
Of course! But it's not true at all, at installation time you can choose every single service that will boot up, and you can configure to start without X, and then run startx..
Version 9.1 (running right now) it's plain awesome! Just check "expert" at installing, and you'll be amazed...
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Old 06-27-2004, 12:35 PM   #23
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Yea, I really have no clue about Drake....but its still Linux so I would think it can do everything that any other distro can.
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Old 07-13-2004, 03:29 PM   #24
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Yea, I really have no clue about Drake....but its still Linux so I would think it can do everything that any other distro can.
lol im totaly confused if i were to tell u i need a os that lets me surf and play games which one would you suggest also bearing in mind im complete linux noob?
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Old 07-13-2004, 06:34 PM   #25
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lol im totaly confused if i were to tell u i need a os that lets me surf and play games which one would you suggest also bearing in mind im complete linux noob?
Every linux can do what all the others can do. Its simple as that. Its jsut that distro's like Fedora, Mandrake, or Suse will get you up and runnign faster and with less hassle, but less tweaking. I say go with Drake. I am beginning to hate FC.
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Old 07-13-2004, 07:46 PM   #26
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i'd say Xandros.
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Old 07-20-2004, 02:43 PM   #27
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Yoper

You guys should give Yoper a try. I just got onboard with the development team and hopefully will crank out a Yoper live CD soon.

Anyway this distro is fast. I mean its like gentoo, but it installs very easily (in miuntes instead of days). We acheive this with a lot of things-

kernel patches (current release uses 2.6.7)
reiserfs
i686 optimized binaries (managed by apt-get/synaptic)
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dma by default
light install (no bloat)
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Old 07-22-2004, 07:35 PM   #28
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I will try and install Yoper tomorrow on the development box. Will write the small thought review on it in the next couple of days.
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Old 09-08-2004, 03:09 AM   #29
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Thank you CompDude. Helpful sticky. Sorry I didn't read it earlier guys. I'll look at getting either Knoppix or Red Hat. Once again thanx... And soz.

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Old 09-08-2004, 10:36 AM   #30
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lol im totaly confused if i were to tell u i need a os that lets me surf and play games which one would you suggest also bearing in mind im complete linux noob?
What kind of games you looking to play? There's plenty of cool games included with most distros...but nothing like Halo or Far Cry. Some newer games do get released for Linux (UT, Neverwinter Nights, and hopefully soon Doom3), and WineX offers emulation anywhere from full compatibility to extreme glitchiness. For a pure gaming platform, unfortunately M$ can't be beat. Like these guys said, no one distro offers anything really more or less than any other distro. The pre-defined configurations and interface vary from one to the other, but ultimately it's all Linux. Just find one you like (try out different distros, if you feel so inclined), and stick with that.

And to add to the discussion of our favorite distros, I just put Convectiva Linux 10 on a back-up hard drive. So far, I've been pretty impressed with the interface. The initial installation takes a little more direct involvement than say Mandrake or Suse, but it is compatible with newer hardware (primarily the 875 chipset), whereas Suse is not. Anybody looking to give a new different distro a try, I recommend CL10.
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Old 09-11-2004, 06:21 PM   #31
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Sorry I haven't reviewed any more distros lately. I have been really busy. I will try and get one up tomorrow if I have the time.
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Old 09-12-2004, 06:42 PM   #32
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Hmm not much on PHLAK.

PHLAK([P]rofessional [H]acker's [L]inux [A]ssault [K]it) is a live boot linux(baced off knopix) designed to probe and test networks for security threats. Some of the security programs that are used in PHLAK are...

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Debian Packages:
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Hand-compiled Packages
01-sdi-brutus-eng.pl, ADM-SAMBA-CLIENT, ADMsnmp, SPIKE, WAP_Assessment, babelweb, cmospwd, dcetest, dcfldd, dd_rescue, ddb-sfe, di, domainobsencontroll, fatback, ffp, grenzgaenger, hackbot, hellkit, hjksuite, hydra, ipsorc, isnprober, itunnel, lcrzeox, lj, login_hacker, mac-robber, manipulate_data, md5deep, memfetch, netcat(compiled statically with Big-Gaping Security Hole), numby, obiwan, objobf, ol2mbox, onesixtyone, pandora-linux, photorec, pwl9x, rda, redir, reverb, revinetd, samba-tng, sara, screamingCobra, secure_delete, sharefuzz, shiva, slogdump, snapscreenshot, tarballz, tct, thcrut, tnef, vmap, walker, wardrive, whisker, zylyx

Windows Packages (using wine)
achillies, AINTX, brutus, THC-CUPASS, ispy, nbtdump, photorec, md5deep, pdd.

My opinion This is a fun tool to use for both good or evil deeds. I recumend this to any Network admin with the ideal gole of making his or her network more secure. Or to any wanabe H4X0R to rain tarror to his or her school network.
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Old 09-12-2004, 09:30 PM   #33
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hehe, you sparked the wrong mind....

Slackware 8 - i learned on this. i really liked how you had complete control over everything. upgrding was a pain as you had to compile everything for your system, but i got used to it.

Debian - my friend got me into this and i loved it even more than slackware. upgrading was easy but i broke it all the time.

Fedora Core - only linux install i was able to get my usb mouse to work with. like it for that reason only.
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Old 09-13-2004, 01:35 AM   #34
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Dyne:Bolic is another great live-distro, I have experimented with quite a different live distro's and this one has worked best over the different machines I have used it on (actively promoting open source operating systems to several clients and other people I come across). In all reality you need to wiegh what you will be using the live system for against what each distro has to offer, they are all unique in thier own way.
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Old 10-26-2004, 05:03 AM   #35
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Are there any distros that you all would like me to try?
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Old 12-07-2004, 03:53 PM   #36
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I'm getting a little confused on Suse. Probably because they are opinions on 2 different versions of it.

Can I get an opinion on Suse pro 9.1, and possibly tell me a little bit about Suse Enterprise 9 server? I got the evaluation copies when they were available, and I have been thinking of setting up a web/file server ever since.

That's all I will ask, as I don't want to crap up this thread too much.
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Old 12-07-2004, 05:50 PM   #37
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I've never used Linux but as I have an older comp (PIII) I have decided to see what it is all about. I have just started downloading Yoper right now and I have it up and running in.. 35 minutes remaining so maybe an hour
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Old 12-13-2004, 01:08 PM   #38
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I ran it for two days, I just didn't feel comfortable with it. I am guessing people just don't use mandrake and cannot have a truly valid opinion.
I've used mandrake in the enterprise actually and (like any distro) if you know the installation process it can be a ok general purpose distro. I tried once to try to clean it up though and get it ready for hardcore use as a frontend webserver and was really disgusted and turned off by the default apache2 setup and junked it.

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yea, openbsd is what goes on all my desktops and servers. I use it also in the enterprise for the higher end php/mysql hosting and firewalling, intrusion and proxying.
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Old 12-13-2004, 02:46 PM   #39
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apache2 is not really that disgusting, i kinda like the extra security measures it installs by default (no folder browsing) and the advanced extranet includes open ssl

and i like mdk most... slack comes in a close second, and suse (or what it used to be) 3rd.
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Old 12-13-2004, 03:13 PM   #40
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apache2 is not really that disgusting, i kinda like the extra security measures it installs by default (no folder browsing) and the advanced extranet includes open ssl
It was mainly the compiled in modules by default that I was having a hard time with when I was removing dso modules and working with adding some others. if i didnt have the need to hack it to bits i'm sure it wouldve been fine-
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