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Old 01-18-2005, 07:39 PM   #21
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PM for sticky done! So you think I should start at 250 for the ram and go up from there? (at 2.5-3-3-7 timings?) For a 2.6ghz final rate (shooting for this on air) I would need 260 with a 10x multi? Seems pretty high for the ram, and the multi is 10 instead of 9 which you recommended.

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Old 01-18-2005, 07:49 PM   #22
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XBL SHould do 250 at 2.5-3-3-7. It may even get to 260.... It cant hurt to start at 250/2.5-3-3-7 since thats a prety common speed/timimgs for this ram.... Your CPU is where you should get a significantly higher overclock.... You might want to try loosening up your memory all the way to 3-4-4-8 (or 11) for TESTING purposes.... and run some benchmarks to see the real world difference between High HTT w/ Loose Timings vs. High HTT w/ Divider& Tigheter Timings. 265-270x10 has been a pretty comom overclock on the later Winchesters.

I remcomed dropping the multi down for finding your highest HTT speed, and highests memory speed. Once you have these numbers, you should be able to go back up to your Stock Multiplier to achieve the speed you found with your CPU testing.... (i.e. you were able to hit 295x9, so 260x10 would get you to the same speed and keep your Ram withing mid level timings....) OR you could run 295x9 with a 166 Divider for 295 HTT Bus and 265 on your Ram....

This is the hardest part of overclocking a A64..... What is REALLY better.... I would Love to get some screenshots of SuperPi and Aquamark3 at both setings for some comparions...
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Old 01-18-2005, 09:10 PM   #23
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Better explanations, and more user/noob friendly. Very well done.

Check out my Updated* 9800pro to xt guide in Ati section.

heres my rig:
3200+ newcastle w/venus 12 and as5
chaintech Vnf-250
PDP patriot XBL 3200
9800 pro flashed to xt w/ samsung and giant III @ some what disappointing 440/375 with as5 on ram and all of the massive HS.

I hit a wall at 2450 w/ settings of 1.6 3xhtt 10 multi 2-2-2-5 on the ram @ 100 2.7

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Old 01-19-2005, 05:04 AM   #24
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Great guide thanks alot for that mate.
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Old 01-19-2005, 06:38 AM   #25
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I don't know. My best guess is he and a few others ****ed Rabid off by asking why Fable was banned. So it's best not to ask.
No. Language/bypassing word filter I really don't give a **** about this Fable, never heard of the dude...

Nice thread, but yeah, me and WiCKeD already covered most of it... I'll get to those extra defenition later tonight, don't really have the time right now...

[EDIT]Ok, added VDD and just for the hell of it Vdimm also, if anything else should be added too just ask me...[/EDIT]

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Old 01-19-2005, 07:17 AM   #26
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Nice guide, but you might wanna tell noobs that we call the memory voltage vdimm.
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Old 01-19-2005, 10:08 AM   #27
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Chase your guide was far more confusing than His. For the record ive been here longer than 3 posts too. I found it to be more user friendly in its breakdown and paragraph structure. I am by no means dogging your guide. I personally have used it and refered others to it.

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Old 01-19-2005, 11:57 AM   #28
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I know mine isn't fool-proof, it was never meant to be, you can look at newb-proofing this way: s = standard effort of making something clear, x = the degree of difficulty, c = amount of characters, F = final effort

F = s^x + c^2

God bless exponential formulas and especially the newbs power always managing to make the ^x a ^x2 and the ^2 a ^3.

BTW, the base of the guide is mine, but this is WiCKeD's rebuild BUT I think its clear enough... Maybe WiCKeD (who I think should keep up my OCing bit) feels like making it newb proof but to get every single last unclarity out of it takes, well... a lot of effort But hey, me and WiCKeD are both far from newbs so it takes a LOT of concentration to understand what might be unclear
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Old 01-19-2005, 03:30 PM   #29
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The HyperTransport or Memory controller is controlled by the HTT Multiplied by the HTT Multiplier, and Memory speed is controlled by the HTT Frequency, Multiplied by the CPU Multiplier and then DIVIDED by the Memory Divider.

this was particularly hard to understand when i built my new rig ( it was my first build ) eventually i got it or at least i think ive got the basics down.
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Old 01-19-2005, 05:14 PM   #30
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Is the heat test is the Small FFT's" test in Prime 95? Which is more suitable for stablity, the "heat" test or the blend test?
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Old 01-20-2005, 01:52 AM   #31
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All have to run stable, run torture...
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Old 01-24-2005, 02:23 PM   #32
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good job sir. i am new to overclocking but following your guide help me alot. i was able to get my system from 2 to 2.32 g stable

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Old 01-27-2005, 04:33 PM   #33
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Finally was able to use the guide to overclock (RMA'd PDP defective ram) and with 15minutes of settings (only had to reset the CMOS once cause I forgot to change the ram timings from 2-2-2-5 to 2.5-3-3-7) went from 2.0GHz stock to 2.5.

10X multi, 250MHz ram @2.5-3-3-7 @2.7volts. Mainboard and CPU are still STOCK voltage.

Thanks alot again for giving me a good starting point that saved me probably 2 hours just getting to my current speed.

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Old 01-27-2005, 05:08 PM   #34
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Excellent! I love to hear results like this!

Just in case... I've added quite a bit of info to the guide since it was stickied.... If you saved it offline, you might want to get the latest version....

Also, Thanks to all that helped get this stickied! I'm happy to contribute to this site any way I can... I Feel I owe this community for all the help I received when I got back into this addicting habbit called overclocking.

I'd also I'd like to publiclly thank XT-Chance and WiCKed. A lot of this info is in their sticky in the AMD procesor forum, Without that, I never could of written this guide. (Even though I couldnt find it when I wrote this... I obviously Absorbed a lot of info from that guide!)

PS: If there are any other issues anyone feels need sto be in this guide, just PM me.. If I dont know, I'll research and add it in!

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Old 01-27-2005, 05:59 PM   #35
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The main thing I still have a question about is spread spectrum. I read some place else that you should turn it off but I would like to know what it does and why it should be turned off.

I also wonder about AGP fastwrite and AGP sideband addressing. I've also read that these should be turned off especially AGP FW if you have an ATI card but what if you have a nVidia?
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Old 01-27-2005, 06:38 PM   #36
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spread spectrum for all I know only unstabilizes your system, no use. FW should be ON, only if you experience problems you can try turning it off, same goes for SBA.
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Thumbs up Good Guide!

Good Guide Impaq!
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Old 01-28-2005, 02:52 PM   #38
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spread spectrum for all I know only unstabilizes your system, no use. FW should be ON, only if you experience problems you can try turning it off, same goes for SBA.
So I went into my bios and see it there (spread spectrum), but I cannot select it (it is ENABLED), and it has an X to the left of the words??? What do I have to do to disable this?

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Old 01-28-2005, 02:55 PM   #39
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Generally, Selecting a Multiplier instead of leaving it on AUTO will disable the SPread Spectrum. (It did on my DFI anyway)
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Old 01-28-2005, 03:34 PM   #40
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Generally, Selecting a Multiplier instead of leaving it on AUTO will disable the SPread Spectrum. (It did on my DFI anyway)
I already have 10X multi selected?
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