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Old 02-12-2005, 11:50 AM   #61
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A64 prefers low timings ram like BH5 & UTT...

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Old 02-15-2005, 01:14 PM   #62
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Great guide that helped me understand what and how, but I still dont understand alot of the why. Im a big fat stinky noob so im sorry if this is a repeat question but the guide gives alot of, okay now loosen the memory timings and bump this up and the turn this down, which is great as a step by step, but i dont understand why that would help, only that it does. Is there a guide or a forum that states more of what these changes actually do specificaly?
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Old 02-15-2005, 01:16 PM   #63
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Hmmm... Your one of those people eh?

ALways want to know WHY somethign works....



I too would love to see a realy in depth guide onMemory Timings.... I've always been curious as to what each setting is actually doing....
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Old 02-15-2005, 03:03 PM   #64
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Much as I'd like to explain it to you all, I'd need to write an entire book to explain everything without leaving one important piece out. And then I don't even know it all, not even JoeP does I think. Some advanced googeling should help. But if you want a basic "what does loosening do" thing explanation;

Timings are how fast ram has to respond to things, depending on clock speed and such this can stress the ram pretty bad. You are telling the ram exactly when you want your response, and lets say you want it Cas2 at 250Mhz, then your ram will be extremely stressed. If you say you want it at Cas4, it has all the time in the world and gives you your data at a laidback pace...
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Old 02-16-2005, 04:29 AM   #65
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Hmmm... Your one of those people eh?

ALways want to know WHY somethign works....



I too would love to see a realy in depth guide onMemory Timings.... I've always been curious as to what each setting is actually doing....
You one of those people too eh impaqt?........SIGH its a hard life. haha.
Ive never been able to get people that are like "oh it works thats good enough for me." Thats how i got into computers becuase i had to know how it was doing all this stuff, and that was like 8 years ago and i still dont know crap.
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Old 02-16-2005, 08:49 AM   #66
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I always wanna know how stuff works, but when it gets to levels of a DFI LanParty UT I just say screw it, I don't wanna know. You work now, lets keep it that way.
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Old 02-24-2005, 10:52 AM   #67
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Is there a guide or a forum that states more of what these changes actually do specificaly?
Tom's had a great color-coded diagram a few years back that I am always trying to dredge up anyone asks that question. Unfortunately, I have no idea where to find it on that disorganized site, so you'd have to search for it. Edit: I found it! http://www6.tomshardware.com/howto/20030701/index.html

One annoying misconception about timings that I see all the freaking time is that they will improve your bandwidth. That's not how it works. They improve how quickly your system delivers that bandwidth, and that is why they are important for gaming. Think of it like a V4 Pinto with a top speed of 200MPH, but it has anemic acceleration, say 0-60 of 15 seconds. On the other hand, there's a V10 Dodge Viper with a governor @ 150MPH, but it does 0-60 in 3.9s. Which is "faster?" That's why bandwidth isn't very important.

...but basically, the differences are so insignificant that's it's not worth investing any time analyzing. Just know that tighter generally equals faster, the timings are ranked in importance and you're good to go.
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Old 02-24-2005, 11:33 AM   #68
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Great guide that helped me understand what and how, but I still dont understand alot of the why. Im a big fat stinky noob so im sorry if this is a repeat question but the guide gives alot of, okay now loosen the memory timings and bump this up and the turn this down, which is great as a step by step, but i dont understand why that would help, only that it does. Is there a guide or a forum that states more of what these changes actually do specificaly?
SPECIFICALLY???

It helps your Over Clock.
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Old 02-26-2005, 07:59 AM   #69
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Addition to Guide

Found a great Memory divider chart that may shed some light on why 5:6 doesnt really calculate out to 5:6 on an AMD64....

(Its in the first post)
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Old 03-03-2005, 01:42 PM   #70
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mmmm.....i understand all that you say...except the memory divider!

You quote memory divider as 100, 133, 166 etc, and provide the equation for memory speed:

(HTT x CPU multiplier) divided by memory divider =

But on my motherboard i only have 1T and 2T for memory dividers?

So if we take the above:

(200 HTT x 10 CPU multiplier) = 2000 divider the memory divider...which would be what?
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Old 03-03-2005, 01:47 PM   #71
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Thats not the memory divider, I'm not sure what it is specifically but 1T is better than 2T.
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Old 03-03-2005, 02:02 PM   #72
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ok, its an Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe, where do i find the memory divider, as that option looks like the only menu item that it could be!
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Old 03-03-2005, 02:55 PM   #73
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Thats not the memory divider, I'm not sure what it is specifically but 1T is better than 2T.
ok, i guess the memory options DDR200, DDR266, DDR333 are the memory dividers, and i have to do my own maths!
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Old 03-03-2005, 02:55 PM   #74
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Memory Duivider may be listed like I have it (100, 133,166,200, etc) or another Coomon way its listed is 1:1/2:3/5:6 etc etc Not specifically familiar with the ASUS boards... you might want totry posting int he ASUS motherboard forum./
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Old 03-06-2005, 05:53 AM   #75
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ok, its an Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe, where do i find the memory divider, as that option looks like the only menu item that it could be!
I was thinking of buying one of those, how do you like it so far. Hey impaqt, would you suggest that board or something else?
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Old 03-06-2005, 05:57 AM   #76
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DFI UT NF4 SLI-D for an SLI Board, NF4 Ultra-D for a standard.
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Old 03-06-2005, 02:43 PM   #77
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DFI UT NF4 SLI-D for an SLI Board, NF4 Ultra-D for a standard.
Are there only certain graphics cards that can be used for SLI or can you use any pci express card? Do they have to be identical?
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Any NVida based card that supports SLI canbe used... 6600GT and up.
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Any NVida based card that supports SLI canbe used... 6600GT and up.
Nvidia....................... Well im glad you told me i was looking at a pair of x800 pros.
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DFI UT NF4 SLI-D for an SLI Board, NF4 Ultra-D for a standard.
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProduc...136-151&depa=0

is this the board you were talking about? What makes it better than the board I was looking at? Wow what a color scheme.........
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