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Old 11-01-2011, 04:41 PM   #81
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Shrimp--very nice job on the de-lidding of those CPU's. Have you done BD yet? or think you will in the future? IS it worth the de-lidding to gain that much in temp?
I know you don't want to hear my opinion, but I'm gonna give it to you anyway.
IMO, no it's not worth the de-lid for the average OC'er, but if you're a bencher, yes, it helps.
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Old 11-01-2011, 06:04 PM   #82
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I know you don't want to hear my opinion, but I'm gonna give it to you anyway.
IMO, no it's not worth the de-lid for the average OC'er, but if you're a bencher, yes, it helps.
have you done one yet scotty? Just curious of the drops your guys are getting.
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Old 11-01-2011, 06:17 PM   #83
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Not BD, but I have done a couple dozen processors of other platforms. The amount of drop in temp isn't uniform for all processors. It seems to depend on what the core is, how old it is, and how bad the original paste job under the lid was. I've had drops from only a couple degrees to 20 degrees.

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Old 11-01-2011, 06:21 PM   #84
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Not BD, but I have done a couple dozen processors of other platforms.
what was your average drop in C?<<< NM you just told me above>>

Just curious if this is something that works for both AMD and Intel?? or is this just a niche for folks that are hard core benchers and they get every last degree out of that chip?
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Old 11-01-2011, 06:25 PM   #85
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I've done older Intels and had pretty much the same results.
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is this just a niche for folks that are hard core benchers and they get every last degree out of that chip?
Pretty much. Although my current rig in sig is de-lidded. So was my last one..........and the one before that, but don't use me as the normal example.

BTW, the 20c drop was on an Intel Tualatin PIII. I still use it for certain bench contests. Pic for your pleasure in one sec.
Don't mind the crappy clean job. I just wiped it for the pic.
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Old 11-01-2011, 06:31 PM   #86
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hmmm, just curious if in getting a SB-E or BD whether to de-lid it or not. I will be running custom loop on it. It seems like alot of people are walking up against walls in benching or OC because of temps and voltages. If this would help get it down another 5-15degrees it might help with OC and Benching.
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Old 11-01-2011, 06:55 PM   #87
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It seems like alot of people are walking up against walls in benching or OC because of temps and voltages. If this would help get it down another 5-15degrees it might help with OC and Benching.
That's why I do it.
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Old 11-01-2011, 08:09 PM   #88
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hmmm, just curious if in getting a SB-E or BD whether to de-lid it or not. I will be running custom loop on it. It seems like alot of people are walking up against walls in benching or OC because of temps and voltages. If this would help get it down another 5-15degrees it might help with OC and Benching.
Custom cooling kit? Say no more, you'll drop temps.

If you don't destroy the Cpu....
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Old 11-01-2011, 09:03 PM   #89
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Shrimp of Scotty--are you edging out the lid first--by that i mean are you using a blade kinda like one of these surgical ones



to cut around the outside and then apply the heat to the center of the CPU to loosen the cap and flip it off?--it looks like you might be cutting around and in on the CPU about 1/16th of an in or so.

I get all kinds of these little scalpels(#10,#12,#15,etc....)at work since i work in the Hospital. These are a dime a dozen and cut with perfection.
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Old 11-01-2011, 09:19 PM   #90
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No actually there are pictures in the first two posts of this thread if you care to have a look.

They are super thin double edge shaving razors. I use those for cutting and flipping.

Insert the blade on two opposite sides. They'll stay there because the solder is still holding the IHS plate down. Then apply heat. When the two razors move, the bond is broken and it IHS plate flips right off.
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Old 11-01-2011, 09:53 PM   #91
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Excellent--i see the technique better in my head now Shrimp--TY !!!

Makes perfect sense !!

again Thanks
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Old 11-01-2011, 10:26 PM   #92
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If you shop around and buy some older cpu's, practice taking the IHS plates off that aren't soldered first.

This way you can get a feel of how deep you need to make the incision. After a while you just know how deep you can go, and if you made a really good couple of passes, the Top pops right off.
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Old 11-02-2011, 11:17 PM   #93
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would this work on a 1090t?
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i assume so--i am waiting on Shrimp to pull the top off of several BD's and some Phenoms

I think Shrimp's got the technique perfected !!! Kinda makes me wanna go out a buy a few cheap ones to practice with.
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llunker, I've done 3 or 4 Phenoms already. And the Llano which was not soldered Hah!
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llunker, I've done 3 or 4 Phenoms already. And the Llano which was not soldered Hah!
Show me a BD-- i want to see some PICS !!!
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Show me a BD-- i want to see some PICS !!!
Very soon. I'll do some benching and over clocking, watch the temps and then do the de-lidding so I can compare before and after.

No Hurries. I want to beat on it a little first.
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Got some bummer news. The de-lidding did not go well.

The core burst before the solder let go. Just past half way through the video (uploading now) you'll see the cpu jump but the IHS plate never moved.

Absolutely Bummed out man.. Even lost a pin.

Here's the pictures... Video is uploading to U-Tube now.
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Bummer. You were due though.
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Old 11-06-2011, 01:08 AM   #100
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Must be a harder solder. The Phenoms popped right off np.

And your right. I was due for a fail.

ORL can now see the risk before he sends me a chip to break

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Video of FX-4100 delidding failed at OP

Core poped at around 3:15 in the vid.

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