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Old 06-26-2010, 11:54 PM   #21
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Spread method here as well... but i dont use the thicker viscosity AS3/5, i use ASCeramique.

Next time for sure, i'll try the X-MEN technique and see if it works for me while still using ASCeramique.
You'll find the AS5 (silver) actually cools much better than Ceramique. The Ceramic also has instructional use as well.

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Due to the unique shapes and sizes of the particles in Céramique, it will take a minimum of 25 hours and several thermal cycles to achieve maximum particle to particle thermal conduction and for the heatsink to CPU interface to reach maximum conductivity. (This period will be longer in a system without a fan on the heatsink.) On systems measuring actual internal core temperatures via the CPU's internal diode, the measured temperature will often drop slightly over this "break-in" period. This break-in will occur during the normal use of the computer as long as the computer is turned off from time to time and the interface is allowed to cool to room temperature. Once the break-in is complete, the computer can be left on if desired.
Info from http://www.arcticsilver.com/ceramique.htm

This is why in my sticky I mention visiting the web site of the thermal paste manufacturer to be familiar with your paste application, break in and results of usage. Not to mention application which may vary from paste to paste, cpu to cpu and cooler to cooler.

IMO I personally find covering the entire area with paste to be better. I don't have to worry if the dot will spread all the way across or if the line is good enough.

Remember, paste is placed to remove air pockets, not create them. A very thin application is enough all the way across.

Just sayin
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Old 06-27-2010, 12:03 AM   #22
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I've always used the spread method, although I put a thicker amount than he did too. He just used way too little to spread it out like that with a low vic substance(I use AS5 which is decently thick). It wasn't even fully covering the spreader before he applied pressure. Also, someone needs to cut their nails, I thought it was a chick for a minute.
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Old 06-27-2010, 12:13 AM   #23
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I've always used the spread method, although I put a thicker amount than he did too. He just used way too little to spread it out like that with a low vic substance(I use AS5 which is decently thick). It wasn't even fully covering the spreader before he applied pressure. Also, someone needs to cut their nails, I thought it was a chick for a minute.

Maybe it is?
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Old 06-27-2010, 12:21 AM   #24
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The only gripe i have with AS3/5 is the thickness of the thermal grease, i too have always used the spread method on every CPU to date.

My biggest problem was using this on P4 cpus, or pretty much any processor that has a IHS. When trying to remove the HSF, it would stick like glue to the cpu, that it would litterally lift the cpu along with it and pull the cpu from its socket.

I've always hated that, even putting a slight twisting motion of the HSF during removal wouldnt do any good, it would still lif the the cpu up along with it and pull it from its socket.

Im thinking of going with that MX-2 thermal grease next time... no curing needed, non conducting, non electrical, non capacitive, etc.
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Old 06-27-2010, 12:42 AM   #25
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I've always hated that, even putting a slight twisting motion of the HSF during removal wouldnt do any good, it would still lif the the cpu up along with it and pull it from its socket.
This is when you know for a Gosh darn fact you did an excellent seating job and the thermal paste is doing/done it's job.

As5 is more of a permanent paste, and one of the best ones too. For benching MX-2 is just great period. All for the things you mentioned. plus being one of the best of the best.
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Old 06-27-2010, 12:50 AM   #26
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Psh. It doesn't matter what kind of TIM you use or how you apply it... in the end it won't matter if you decide to use THIS FAN!

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Recommended Motor: BL15 Ducted Fan Brushless Motor, 3600Kv (EFLM3015DF)

Static Thrust: 1.7 lbs on 3S (11.1V); 2.8 lbs on 4S (14.8V)

RPM: 31,000 on 3S (11.1V); 40,000 on 4S (14.8V)

Velocity: 71 mph on 3S (11.1V); 102 mph on 4S (14.8V)

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Current: 29A on 3S (11.1V);46A on 4S (14.8V)
102 MPH wind speed @ 644W.......!

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Old 06-27-2010, 12:56 AM   #27
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I always do X from corner to corner , gets full coverage that way.

Cool vid. I played something like that in my head awhile back.
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Old 06-27-2010, 01:00 AM   #28
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Psh. It doesn't matter what kind of TIM you use or how you apply it... in the end it won't matter if you decide to use THIS FAN!



102 MPH wind speed @ 644W.......!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBqGGFWrGaQ
Get enough of these and your PC might fly
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Old 06-27-2010, 08:17 AM   #29
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IMO I personally find covering the entire area with paste to be better. I don't have to worry if the dot will spread all the way across or if the line is good enough.
Right on brother.
Also, if you're worried about air bubbles, when you put your HS on, put it on with a slight rolling motion instead of straight up and down perpendicular. Like putting on a decal, if you know what I mean.
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Old 06-27-2010, 08:36 AM   #30
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Right on brother.
Also, if you're worried about air bubbles, when you put your HS on, put it on with a slight rolling motion instead of straight up and down perpendicular. Like putting on a decal, if you know what I mean.
The directions for applying IC7 mention a similar method for application. You put small amount on, and then you rotate the heatsink slightly.
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Old 06-27-2010, 08:50 AM   #31
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Maybe it is?
nope. It's an asian guy. mewb.
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Old 06-27-2010, 10:21 PM   #32
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That vid converted me from the "spread TIM on the IHS" method, to the "grain of rice in the middle" method
Hehe, it also converted me from AS5 to ocz freeze.

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Get enough of these and your PC might fly
Get some servos and other eletronics and you could build the world's first flying pc. Now THAT'S a flying sim.

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Old 07-01-2010, 12:10 PM   #33
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What a great video!
I was taught to use the spread out method but now I fear the air bubbles. Maybe this can explain why my 955 can jump to 70C in about 20sec while only overclocked to 3.7ghz when I run prime95. I'll be using the X from now on.
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Old 07-01-2010, 12:25 PM   #34
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"Is thermal paste required for a cpu cooler?"

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What a great video!
I was taught to use the spread out method but now I fear the air bubbles. Maybe this can explain why my 955 can jump to 70C in about 20sec while only overclocked to 3.7ghz when I run prime95. I'll be using the X from now on.
The thermal paste that showed the air bubbles was the cheap generic stuff, that didnt happen with the other name brand paste the guy used.

Your high temp problem has many factors.... are you using the stock intel HSF, did you raise the Vcore of the cpu, is the airflow in your case restrictive, are yout fans dirty, etc.
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The thermal paste that showed the air bubbles was the cheap generic stuff, that didnt happen with the other name brand paste the guy used.

Your high temp problem has many factors.... are you using the stock intel HSF, did you raise the Vcore of the cpu, is the airflow in your case restrictive, are yout fans dirty, etc.
With the spread method, air bubbles appeared with MX-2 as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffK7L...720&feature=iv
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Old 07-01-2010, 03:14 PM   #37
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98% coverage with MX-2 using the spread method, those were small gaps, not air bubbles... unlike the generic white grease.
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Old 07-01-2010, 05:38 PM   #38
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98% coverage with MX-2 using the spread method, those were small gaps, not air bubbles... unlike the generic white grease.
What do you think the gaps are? Nothingness?
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What do you think the gaps are? Nothingness?
air bubbles are created after pressure is applied and the grease spreads itself out too far. gaps are where you didn't put enough paste on, and no contact was made in the first place. you can't put it on paper thin if you use the spread method. its the Same person doing the applying so it's not surprising he managed to screw it up again.
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Old 07-01-2010, 06:18 PM   #40
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The spread method seems to work for me, so i stuck with it... airbubbles and all.
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