A/C to Chiller conversion

[Kalivar]

The microchillers look sweet!! Any idea of a price?? -60C would be sick!! (looks like I'm going to have to condensate proof after all :P ) Keep up the good work guys! I don't post often, but you have my utmost support!! When time (and money) provides, I will be joining in on this venture of extreme cooling. I can't wait!

[Drewmeister]

Thanks Kalivar...I have a price on Extreme X and Micro X. Micro X LAN is in developement right now so I don't have an exact price but it will be the cheapest of the Micro series. I just sent you a PM.

[Drewmeister]

Originally Posted by markdm

Great, It will be nice to see how it does on that hot AMD cpu.

BTW, finished the PCPitstop challenge last night. Our team ended up in 3rd place out of 10 teams. I ended up in 17th out of 67 overall on stock scores., and 18th overall on OC scores. Could of done a little better, but ran out of time to get my last score in, which was 4000 points higher. AM3 Score on Albatron 6800GT I had to dump the albatron bios, and ended up using the BFG 6800GT OC bios. Im getting 415/1160 on the OC, and i set the bios to default at 400/1100 which is where i'll rune it most of the time. thats a 50MHz OC on the core, and a 100MHz on the memory. im just a little dissapointed in the 6800GT though, i really thought it would test in the pit alot better then it did.

Good job dm...That is one hell of an AM3 score Looks like you need some extreme cooling and or vmods to really push things. Are you gonna get that awesome 6800 wb you posted here awhile back?

[markdm]

Originally Posted by Drewmeister

Good job dm...That is one hell of an AM3 score Looks like you need some extreme cooling and or vmods to really push things. Are you gonna get that awesome 6800 wb you posted here awhile back?

Ya, i want to get the WB for the 6800. But also been looking at the artic cooler5 too, as its a lot cheaper and does a good job for a fan type cooler.

EDIT: Just ordered the Arctic Cooling NV Silencer 5 $38.99 W/2day FedEx shipping. Will be here thursday

[Drewmeister]

Here's a sneak peak at the Extreme X proto-type. Started the testing with r22 a few nights ago and right now I'm waiting on a different expansion valve that should more closely match the small heat loads. I should have it next week and will post results after it's fully tweaked. For now I'll give you a quick look at what I'm up to. It was pretty challenging getting it all to fit in such a tight space without blocking airflow too much factoring in the 1 1/4" thick of insulation on the heat exchanger and the 5/8" insulation build up on all the suction and water lines . The water lines are 5/8" to reduce any flow losses and exit out the back and will have 1/2" or 3/4" FPT. The unit seems pretty quiet even expossed like that. It measures 21"x8"x12.75". I'll be insulating it and getting it ready for some extreme testing next week. The enclosure will be aluminium with vents in the front-back and side panel will have an X cutout for airflow and case lighting(if it fits). It should be a finished product inside of two weeks. The final test will be with r507/r290 on this one and am shooting for temps in the -50c range.

[Kalivar]

Looking great Drew, keep up the good work. Hopefully I will be able to order one of these fairly soon!

[Tiger62651]

great job on the project, looks awsome at 3ghz.

sure a huge post, are you going to put this under the how-to section cause its alot of reading especially to just get past the other posts to your directions? or make a seperate A/C chiller how-to

[noremacyug]

drew, please shoot me a pm of the prices of the different models. im mainly interested in the lan model. everything looks awesome..... keep it up.

[cetoole]

Are these things complete chiller devices, or is there a lot of work involved after getting one of these before the system is functional?

[madramper]

Originally Posted by cetoole

Are these things complete chiller devices, or is there a lot of work involved after getting one of these before the system is functional?

This basically replaces the radiators in a water cooling kit. You still need the pump, tubing, blocks, etc. And if you are going subambient, you should insulate/condensate proof your mobo.

[Drewmeister]

Originally Posted by Tiger62651

great job on the project, looks awsome at 3ghz.

sure a huge post, are you going to put this under the how-to section cause its alot of reading especially to just get past the other posts to your directions? or make a seperate A/C chiller how-to

Thanks Tig...It has turned into a bit of a mess and I would like to organize it. I have more than enough material now to condense this into a complete detailed guide for a sticky. I'm ready to do that now and will be contacting Jason on how I should go about it.

[markdm]

Hey drew, Just got done playing Painkiller for about an hour, temp on the 6800GT with the new NV Silencer 5 only got up to 60c. thats really good with a default OC of 400/1100 on the card

[Drewmeister]

Originally Posted by cetoole

Are these things complete chiller devices, or is there a lot of work involved after getting one of these before the system is functional?

They are ready to chill whatever suitable coolant you pump through them. Like madramper said..it replaces the radiator/heater core in a traditional wc system. There are several models available from mild to wild. I'm building a chiller for a customer right now that can be mild(sub-ambient) or sorta wild(-30c). The nice thing about this particular system is it's flexibility....you can run it at warmer ambient to dewpoint temps right out of the box to avoid the work involved with condensate proofing. If you want to push your system to the max then just condensate proof/insulate the hardware and set the thermostat for -30c and Let 'Er Rip!

[Drewmeister]

Originally Posted by markdm

Hey drew, Just got done playing Painkiller for about an hour, temp on the 6800GT with the new NV Silencer 5 only got up to 60c. thats really good with a default OC of 400/1100 on the card

Sounds good. Have you pushed the oc on it yet? 80K? Let us know how it goes.
Let's start a server. One on One.

[markdm]

Originally Posted by Drewmeister

Sounds good. Have you pushed the oc on it yet? 80K? Let us know how it goes.
Let's start a server. One on One.

I tried to PM you, your box is full, need to empty some things out drew.

I'll see if i can hit 80K not sure though, this card doesn't OC real high yet, i might need to re-flash the bios, as i think i missed a setting in there on the 2d volt mod.

Hey, thats sweet, just found you can save all your msg's to a txt file and then delete them. cool

[Drewmeister]

Originally Posted by WeStSiDePLaYa

looking good. this will make my decision of making one myself harder depending on how much the cost. i wanna make a waterchiller that will fit into half of a cut up chenming.

I have already completely looked into that and a small micro chiller or direct die can fit up top by moving the psu below and saving 3 bays for a pump/res. It will be small so the capacity will be less but would be sweet to have a chiller housed in the pc case. If you are looking to chop the case in half then I've looked into that too with a Chieftec Dragon mid tower. The Micro X would easily fit in one. All of the X series chillers are 8" wide for a reason. The Micro X and Micro X LAN will come standard with a modded Chieftec Dragon front bezel of any color. If the customer wishes the chiller to match their case then they will have to cover the cost of that particular bezel and I will mod and install it. It must have good airflow though that's why I chose the Dragons. If you want a quote on something just pm me with your cooling needs. If you choose to build your own I'll be more than happy to help you out.

EDIT: Sorry about that markdm..I save to text and deleted. pm away

[markdm]

Originally Posted by Drewmeister

EDIT: Sorry about that markdm..I save to text and deleted. pm away

thats ok, i saved the text, and will pm it to you after bit, im chilling the main system down right now to try for 80K im AM3 8o

I'v got a good score comming up if i can just get AM3 to stop crashing right at the end, from what im seeing in the test FPS, i think it will be high then 80K. Just got to figure out why it keeps crashing back to the desktop right befor its done. may need to set the vid down a bit more, i have it at 420/1160 right now. i'll try 415/1160 and see what happens next.

Ok drew here ya go AM3 84581 @3859MHz

[Drewmeister]

You crushed 80K man! Sweet...now lets get that baby up to 560/1260 with some vmods/chilled. Do we see 100K coming soon? How much more do you think you can get? What's the average max for that card? Are you gonna go for 4GHz on your prescott with straight chilled liquid?

[markdm]

Originally Posted by Drewmeister

You crushed 80K man! Sweet...now lets get that baby up to 560/1260 with some vmods/chilled. Do we see 100K coming soon? How much more do you think you can get? What's the average max for that card? Are you gonna go for 4GHz on your prescott with straight chilled liquid?

Thanks drew

I don't see a 560 core on this card at all maybe 450 - 460 and 1200 - 1250 with vmod to the card. I just flashed the bios again and upped the voltage to 1.5v on the 3d side, and 1.4 on the 2d side. not sure if this will work but going to give it a try. i would rather not hard mod the card if i can get 425/1200 out of it with the bios vmod. Thats the same as a Ultra, and i should be able to get close to 100k with that so far the max i have seen on the GT is 430/1200, though it was on an EVGA 6800GT, mine is the albatron card, and doesn't seem to OC as well as the EVGA cards do.

BTW, I don't have a prescott CPU, Its just a little o'l 3.0C 12 cap northwood. and untill i go to chilling right from the AC unit its very very hard to even get it to 3906MHz the couple of times that i have. this asus p4p board just doesn't like 258FSB and up at all, and i have to go 260FSB to get the 3906MHz, and it gives me fits every time i try. its like fighting for 4 or 5 hours just to get one good run at AM3 and the pit test in befor it crashes. So im thinking im probly at my limit with this setup, and i'll have to remove the pelt to get any further with it, as i think its holding me back a bit too.

I may get a 3.2E and an abit NF7 max-3 875 mobo later on when i can afford it. I'll set it up with no case, just for testing extreme speeds, vmods, etc... and should be able to hit 4.2 - 4.4GHz or better with that setup. I'v pretty much pushed this one as far as i want to for now, as i don't want to kill it untill i at least can afford to rebuild it if i do.

[Drewmeister]

Well...thats's one fine machine you have there and I don't blame you for leaving it at that oc. Sometimes you have to leave well enough alone. I think I've hit a oc barrier on my NF7 so I've been giving NITRO a rest for awhile running it at a tweaked down 2.8GHz@0c for gaming. I may pickup a cheap DFI LP-B for one last try at 3GHz with good FSB.

The 3.2E/IC7 sounds like a good plan. I have the 3.2c/IC7Max3 and love it. They are hard to come by these days but with some searching you'll find one. There is rumor of a revised Max3 coming out soon. Mine did 3.86GHz stable on cool air and booted windows at 3968 the first night. When I bought it in 12/03 they were the most popular boards among the top 10 2K3 record holders. Today the top 10 still favor the IC7 over the ASUS by 4 to 1 as far as Intel goes. I have no doubt I'll break 4.2GHz with the new Extreme X chiller and vmods. If you can't find one then the ASUS P4C800-E Deluxe would be second. The IC7-G would be third stock but second if it was vmodded. The IC7's benefit greatly from the VTT/Vdimm mods and the P4C's like the Vdimm and almost always need the droop mod. You may hit 4GHz with either board but stability will be lacking without vmods. Both boards require pretty much the same amount of work but IMO the IC7's have more potential.