CodeWeasel's Quick and Dirty Intro to C++

[D_unruled]

does it matter where the '{}'s are located? do they have to have their own line?
also, why is tehre things like << instead of just one <...

ohman, this is harder then Qbasic

( i tought myself some qbasic 5-6 yrs back, programmed the majority on my 386...perfect basic machine )

[CodeWeasel]

doesn't matter where your curly brackets are, as long as they are the endcaps of the code you're encapsulating
It all depends on personal preference, and/or the school/company's preference.

<< and >> are operators most commonly used to designate input and output streams from a variable. > and < are used in making comparisons, much like doing inequalities in math class.

[JoeV2-MCM]

Originally Posted by CodeWeasel

doesn't matter where your curly brackets are, as long as they are the endcaps of the code you're encapsulating

My only comment on the placement of curly braces, the number of spaces between your tab stops and any of the other numerous topics which typically come up for debate when a team of developers in an organization is preparing to write a Coding Styles Document is simply for each individual developer to be consistent. Allow them to be unique in their coding style, but ensure they are consistent in their style. The corollary to this is that when they edit a source file written by another developer it is important they adopt the style used by the author of the file and not their own unique style.

In my opinion, there is no need for a company to force a particular standard when the standards deal with issues that are subjective (i.e. curly brace placement...). I have no problem with organizations setting standards when it comes to such useful, objectives issues as naming conventions for structures and variables. Okay, I'm ranting now. Pet peeve topic for me. I'll stop now.

Originally Posted by CodeWeasel

<< and >> are operators most commonly used to designate input and output streams from a variable.

The >> and << operators are also used for bitwise shift operations.

[CodeWeasel]

Originally Posted by JoeV2-MCM

Okay, I'm ranting now. Pet peeve topic for me. I'll stop now.



The >> and << operators are also used for bitwise shift operations.

deep breath Yeah, that's why I mentioned it being preference. I know companies do things like that, but wasn't sure exactly how it goes down. Tnx for the input, joe.

And good point w/ the angle brackets, forgot about that...

[chaosUnplugged]

Thank you for an excellent overview and comic strip!

When do you anticipate the availability of your Structs/Classes section? I have no JAVA/C# background so this area seems very foreign to me conceptually. [I do have Intermediate C++ (up through Structs/Classes)]. Taking Advanced C++ Fall quarter and would love to see what you had to say about this area. In the meantime, any recommendations on books/websites with superior intros to this subject?

Thank you CodeWeasel,

[CodeWeasel]

Whoa, man, i forgot about this thread

Um, I dunno when I'll get that stuff up honestly, i've been reallllly busy since school started. As for books, any intro book will tell you the simple stuff, it really depends on where you wanna take your coding. For me it was Game Dev, so I went with game programming books. As for websites, can't go wrong with www.cplusplus.com, the msdn (http://msdn.microsoft.com), and google.

[LegoWarrior]

who votes what for free c++ complier to be the best for absolute noobs? I dont know dank bout programming

[Copycat]

^
If you're referring to an IDE, then definitely, by far, the best is dev-cpp
www.bloodshed.net/devcpp.html

for my preference, the best free compiler is gcc, which is bundled with the dev-cpp free IDE

[itachi]

for ides.. i prefer eclipse over dev-cpp. the interface is a lot nicer and despite being designed originally for java.. the c++ package would have u fooled. as for compilers.. really doesn't matter if you're starting off from the beginning. when you start getting into code optimizations and such, vc and icc dominate.. otherwise, just go with one that works. if you're using windows, you got either mingw/cygwin or ms's free compiler. linux, icc or gcc.

[CodeWeasel]

Yeah, we use Eclipse here actually. It's not bad, my only complaint is that it doesn't have a resource editor

[UrbanSmooth]

So, what kind of stuff have you guys made with C++ lately?

[Copycat]

Originally Posted by UrbanSmooth

So, what kind of stuff have you guys made with C++ lately?

2 pure mathematical benchmarks for linux. It's been long since i don't touch our 3D engine =\

[CodeWeasel]

Originally Posted by UrbanSmooth

So, what kind of stuff have you guys made with C++ lately?

eCalc and WeaselPong!

****, I forgot about this thread...

[Ishy]

WeaselPong pwns

[Kamikaze2]

Pretty good intro guide, I say .

However, you may want to recommend a few books or tutorials (http://www.freeprogrammingresources.com/, for example. And yes, that site is like my Bible, or C++ in Easy Steps (ISBN 0760771383) for a book.). And, a little pet peeve...

C was based off of B. B was based off of BCPL. B was a much more simple form of C, arguably. But BCPL was a form of BASIC. The UNICHS (later renamed UNIX) project incorporated some random form of assembler for the initial code. But, later on, after finding FORTRAN to not be what he was looking for, the head dev... guy... person... developed B I think. Then, C evolved from that. And later on, Bjarne Sto... Strous... Stroustrup added on object orientation for C. And, throw in a dash of programmers humor, and you get C++.


Thank you.

[itachi]

Originally Posted by Kamikaze2

Pretty good intro guide, I say .

However, you may want to recommend a few books or tutorials (http://www.freeprogrammingresources.com/, for example. And yes, that site is like my Bible, or C++ in Easy Steps (ISBN 0760771383) for a book.). And, a little pet peeve...

C was based off of B. B was based off of BCPL. B was a much more simple form of C, arguably. But BCPL was a form of BASIC. The UNICHS (later renamed UNIX) project incorporated some random form of assembler for the initial code. But, later on, after finding FORTRAN to not be what he was looking for, the head dev... guy... person... developed B I think. Then, C evolved from that. And later on, Bjarne Sto... Strous... Stroustrup added on object orientation for C. And, throw in a dash of programmers humor, and you get C++.


Thank you.

C was based off BCPL CPL, B, and ALGOL 68.. no programming language these days are influenced by only 1 language. BCPL is not a form of BASIC, it's based off CPL hence the name Basic CPL (not B.A.S.I.C. CPL).

[Kamikaze2]

Ah, I was taught wrongly then on the history of C...

Curse you, short attention span, and Wikipedia!

[TRICKDADDY]

Any recommendations for the best "introductory" books or information on learning C++ fundamentals. Consider me the world's biggest noob on the topic, and then offer any suggestions that would be best suited to my experience level...or lack there of.

thx for your help in advance!

[CodeWeasel]

I would suggest visiting your local bookstore (provided it has a programming section) and thumbing through a few of the books. All of the "learn c++" noob-type books will pretty much have the same content, what you want to look for is how well it's written. Make sure you can easily understand the book before you buy it. This is also why I don't recommend buying off the internet.

[HyperFang]

So, are you going to update with Arrays, Pointers, and Classes? Or should I do that one? :P


Remember kids, Pointers are pointless, but still are a good coding practice!