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Old 02-16-2008, 01:02 PM   #1
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Dual Xeon E5410 Overclockable?

First, hello to everyone - first post here, yay!

I'm completely new the world of overclocking and as I started to look into a new rig to do my 3D Modeling/Rendering (and yes of course the obligatory gaming!) on I started thinking about overclocking. Something I've always been interested in but never made the time to learn about as I work a full time job and then on my free time doing either modeling and rendering for myself or modeling for a UT3 total conversion mod for the past year and probably another year till it's complete.

The following is the system I am looking at, so far it is the best performing system for my current $2000.00 budget and requirements. So far I have been able to keep it around $1850.00 but I already own the RAM, Video Card and Sound Card.

CPU1: Intel Xeon E5410 Harpertown 2.33GHz
CPU2: Intel Xeon E5410 Harpertown 2.33GHz
Motherboard: TYAN S5382WAG2NRF Dual 771 Intel 5000P
RAM: 4GB PQI Turbo DDR2 667
HDD1: WD Caviar 750GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s
HDD2: WD Caviar 750GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s
GPU: EVGA 8800GTX 768MB
Audio: X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty
PSU: PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad
Case: CM Stacker STC-T01-UWK

I am considering adding to/replacing the ram with 8-16 gigs more/another brand but I'm not sure what would be overclockable on a system such as this or if the PQI is just fine.

I'm not a huge hardware buff but I think I've done some pretty exhaustive research on what meets my needs best, I am however open to suggestions on components as I'm sure some of you are far better versed on the subject than myself.

Thanks in advance!
JM

Edit: Great forums by the way! I've been reading them for the past 3-4 hours and I could easily spend weeks here and probably not learn everything I'd like to!
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Old 02-16-2008, 02:21 PM   #2
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Nope. I highly doubt that will overclock. Stay with S775 because I think 771s are server sockets that require FB-DIMMs and a buttload of money. Probably a highly overclocked 45nm quad will do fine w\ 4-8GB of RAM (4GB for a higher overclock).
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Old 02-16-2008, 02:35 PM   #3
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Unfortunately octa-core is not a "nice to have" for me. Yes the board uses FB-DIMMs. There is however several boards that don't use the FB-DIMMs. Do the FB-DIMMS make it impossible to overclock the RAM?
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Old 02-16-2008, 02:39 PM   #4
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Welcome to EOCF

Agree with poster above me. Ditch the cpu/mobo. S775 is where its at.

-IMO-

Go for a q6600 now or wait for the 45nm quads that should be hitting retail here very soon. Personally I would definately wait at this point, we have to be what down to 30 days tops?

I really like my Nforce board, but seeing you wont be doing SLI or anything, its kind of a waste, assuming the software wont take advantage. I have a degree in computer animation and graphic design - but I have no idea if 3d programs like 3dsmax, Maya, Blender etc. would utilize it? Hoping that someone could chime in on this one... (cause SLI G92 GT/GTS for the $ would be kick *** if supported in any fashion for real time rendering)

TBH unless you are working in some really really intense 3d stuff - 4gb should probally be enough. However I might actually recomend 2x2gb sticks to begin for you, that way you could do another 2x2 if you felt the need. In your situation I would consider possibly some ddr2 1066 or possibly even ddr3 if for yorkfield (45nm quads coming soon) it makes sense. TBH - I'm not that versed on ddr3. FWIW Me and LOTS of other members have gotten great performance from Crucial Ballistix.

For a hard disk I would also look at the Seagate Barracuda with 32mb cache - they perform very well and are within your budget.

What display you using?
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Old 02-16-2008, 02:47 PM   #5
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If you need that high end of a rig that you need 8-16 true cores (not Hyper Threaded) then you should forget overclocking because those high end rigs are usually servers anyway.
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Old 02-16-2008, 02:52 PM   #6
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We talking about stuff like SGI boxes?

http://www.sgi.com/industries/render_mgt/

http://www.sgi.com/pdfs/3941.pdf
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Old 02-16-2008, 03:29 PM   #7
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The Xeon E5410 is a 45nm quad.

Unlike the Q6600 it has 4 pipelines instead of 2.

The 8 cores make rendering massively faster than 2 or 4 cores. An hour long render on a 2 core processor only takes about 10-15 minutes tops on an octa-core system.

I just discovered an answer to my question, for anyone who is interested the multipliers on the E5410 are unlocked so OCing can be done directly.

Edit: going with faster ram won't help me, DDR2 667 will already move data as fast as it can be moved through the FSB. If I go with faster ram it would move data so much faster than the FSB (even overclocked) that it would be a waste.

My display is a ViewsonicVX2235wm (22") soon to be a VX2835wm (27.5" 3ms)

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Not exactly no. I'm not rendering off a bunch of video, mostly raytraced stills.

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