What chipset killed your Ballistix?

[MasterTelia]

Originally Posted by ether.real

I also agree that it is likely a PCB issue, since the Ballistix seem more affected than other RAMs using the same ICs. Also considering I have had at least two different ICs fail on me....

i dont know about PCB failures, cant really comment on it as i dont know enough about how the PCB is on the ram, any ways

seeing as ballistix sold the most within the OC community some time ago, we are also going to see a lot more failures from that specific brand

[jevans64]

I had my Ballistix DDR2-1066 running 2.1 volts at DDR2-1000 for a couple of weeks in an Asus P5K-VM HDMI before one stick died. I've had much better luck with Corsair Dominator DDR2-1066, so I am sticking with those modules for now.

[Librarian]

Asus P5K and Gigabyte DS3. Both sets DDR2-800 @ 2.1v (single-sided)

[thepeganator]

Originally Posted by webstien

We should do a poll that simply asks "What chipset do you own?" and see how it correlates with this poll.

I was thinking about that last night, someone should do one.

[Mindwarp]

Originally Posted by bftek

I guess I'm insanely lucky to have none of my 4 D9 ballistix fail on me?

*Knocks on wood*

Yeah, me too. My first set of 2x1 Gig 800 (double sided) have been going at 2.1v for well over a year now. A few months ago I added a second set (single sided) and they're running nicely as well. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones. Maybe the G33 plays nicer with the ram.

Originally Posted by b1lk1

Gee, 3 months ago that was the best possible memory that most of you guys recommended around here. I guess you really do get what you pay for..........

Come one b1lk1, that's not really a fair statement is it? We make recommendations on what we know to be true at the time and at the time this ram was performing well and was relatively inexpensive. If there now seems to be a problem with longevity, it certainly wasn't evident back then.

[reverandmaynard]

Originally Posted by b1lk1

Gee, 3 months ago that was the best possible memory that most of you guys recommended around here. I guess you really do get what you pay for..........

yeah but Crucial made the change from double sided to single sided and that's when things went down hill fast. Right now, I'd recommend Mushkin or Geil only.

http://www.canadacomputers.com/index...id=RAM.346.754

Notice how the top picture of the sticks have the clips? They are the good ones, and are discontinued.

Notice how the bottom picture have no clips? These suck arse, and should be avoided like the plague.

Here's a single pic of the sh1te ballistix.

http://images.crucial.com/images/res...pin_350x90.gif

[zollen]

Crucial no longer use D9 micron as they once did.

[ether.real]

Originally Posted by reverandmaynard

yeah but Crucial made the change from double sided to single sided and that's when things went down hill fast. Right now, I'd recommend Mushkin or Geil only.

http://www.canadacomputers.com/index...id=RAM.346.754

Notice how the top picture of the sticks have the clips? They are the good ones, and are discontinued.

Notice how the bottom picture have no clips? These suck arse, and should be avoided like the plague.

Here's a single pic of the sh1te ballistix.

http://images.crucial.com/images/res...pin_350x90.gif

Single sided, double sided, doesnt matter, both fail.

[DiMeLo]

My first two sets of crucials that died on me were the 10th anniversary sticks. I RMA'd them after 4 months running at 1100 5-5-5-18 2.2v on my P5B Deluxe. Unfortunately they did not make those anymore and I got served with Ballistix that would only go 1050 on 2.2v. That set lasted me 2 months before they crippled. I RMA'd those sticks got a new set that run 1100 2.2v but I keep them at 1000 2.1v so they hopefully won't die on me.

[gunbo13]

Originally Posted by MasterTelia

i dont know about PCB failures, cant really comment on it as i dont know enough about how the PCB is on the ram, any ways

seeing as ballistix sold the most within the OC community some time ago, we are also going to see a lot more failures from that specific brand

DDR2 RAM modules
http://ramlist.ath.cx/ddr2/

PC2-6400 Ballistix
P/N ending with .16FDx
4.0-4-4-12 @ 2.2V
Micron D9GMH (B6-3)
Micron D9GCT (B6-37E) (possible)
Micron D9GKX (B6-25E) (possible)
Micron D9DQW (BT-37E)

PC2-8000 Ballistix
P/N ending with .16FDx
5.0-5-5-15 @ 2.2V
Micron D9GMH (B6-3)
Micron D9GCT (B6-37E) (possible)
Micron D9GKX (B6-25E) (possible)
Micron D9DQT (BT-3)

PC2-8500 Ballistix
P/N ending with .16FDx
5.0-5-5-15 @ 2.2V
Micron D9GMH (B6-3)
Micron D9GCT (B6-37E) (possible)
Micron D9GKX (B6-25E) (possible)

PC2-6400 Ballistix Tracer
P/N ending with .16FDx
4.0-4-4-12 @ 2.2V
Micron D9GMH (B6-3)
Micron D9GCT (B6-37E) (possible)
Micron D9GKX (B6-25E) (possible)
Micron D9DQW (BT-37E)

PC2-8000 Ballistix Tracer
P/N ending with .16FDx
5.0-5-5-15 @ 2.2V
Micron D9GMH (B6-3)
Micron D9GCT (B6-37E) (possible)
Micron D9GKX (B6-25E) (possible)
Micron D9DQT (BT-3)

PC2-8500 Ballistix Tracer
P/N ending with .16FDx
5.0-5-5-15 @ 2.2V
Micron D9GMH (B6-3)
Micron D9GCT (B6-37E) (possible)
Micron D9GKX (B6-25E) (possible)

Don't underestimate the D9 infection.

[reverandmaynard]

Originally Posted by gunbo13

DDR2 RAM modules
http://ramlist.ath.cx/ddr2/

PC2-6400 Ballistix
P/N ending with .16FDx
4.0-4-4-12 @ 2.2V
Micron D9GMH (B6-3)
Micron D9GCT (B6-37E) (possible)
Micron D9GKX (B6-25E) (possible)
Micron D9DQW (BT-37E)

PC2-8000 Ballistix
P/N ending with .16FDx
5.0-5-5-15 @ 2.2V
Micron D9GMH (B6-3)
Micron D9GCT (B6-37E) (possible)
Micron D9GKX (B6-25E) (possible)
Micron D9DQT (BT-3)

PC2-8500 Ballistix
P/N ending with .16FDx
5.0-5-5-15 @ 2.2V
Micron D9GMH (B6-3)
Micron D9GCT (B6-37E) (possible)
Micron D9GKX (B6-25E) (possible)

PC2-6400 Ballistix Tracer
P/N ending with .16FDx
4.0-4-4-12 @ 2.2V
Micron D9GMH (B6-3)
Micron D9GCT (B6-37E) (possible)
Micron D9GKX (B6-25E) (possible)
Micron D9DQW (BT-37E)

PC2-8000 Ballistix Tracer
P/N ending with .16FDx
5.0-5-5-15 @ 2.2V
Micron D9GMH (B6-3)
Micron D9GCT (B6-37E) (possible)
Micron D9GKX (B6-25E) (possible)
Micron D9DQT (BT-3)

PC2-8500 Ballistix Tracer
P/N ending with .16FDx
5.0-5-5-15 @ 2.2V
Micron D9GMH (B6-3)
Micron D9GCT (B6-37E) (possible)
Micron D9GKX (B6-25E) (possible)

Don't underestimate the D9 infection.

Where did I mention D9?

[gunbo13]

Originally Posted by reverandmaynard

Where did I mention D9?

Accidental quotation. I removed it and apologize. I was just posting to show the main reason for failed Ballistix.....D9 PCB usage. And "ALL" manufacturers are suffering similar failure rates.

I made a thread long ago about the D9 mess. It is widespread and rampant in the OC community.

[memphist0]

965 killed it on an ASUS P5B Deluxe

[Bazman]

Originally Posted by jevans64

I had my Ballistix ......

Just wanted to say Land of the Lost Rocked. Cool Avatar.

[shroomyj]

My gigabyte p35-ds4 killed my ballistix TWICE!!
I must admit I have no active cooling on my ram, and I ran them at +0.45 == 2.25 volts..
Very bad, but is this really because of the chipset? That would be insane.. I think it's more likely the ram doesn't like the hot temperature..

Because they have died I now have a 2 gig a-data pc8500 vitesta extreme edition kit, runs at 2.0 volts @ 550mhz 5-5-5-14, and maybe even with less voltage. haven't tried it yet.
They have d9gmh b6-3 chips on them, with a brainpower PCB, and cost me 49 euros.

[justinsn95]

Man i see a ton of threads about dead ballistix on pretty much every site. Note to self. Never ever ever buy ballistix.

[chiefish]

Mine were OCZ but they were also d9 chips on them and i went thru two sets so far with a 680i chipset, so i wouldnt hold it againt Ballistix per say its the chips that suck.

[gunbo13]

Originally Posted by chiefish

Mine were OCZ but they were also d9 chips on them and i went thru two sets so far with a 680i chipset, so i wouldnt hold it againt Ballistix per say its the chips that suck.

Exactly. D9 failures are across the board for memory manufacturers. Look for sticks with better thermal design.

[reverandmaynard]

Originally Posted by gunbo13

Accidental quotation. I removed it and apologize. I was just posting to show the main reason for failed Ballistix.....D9 PCB usage. And "ALL" manufacturers are suffering similar failure rates.

I made a thread long ago about the D9 mess. It is widespread and rampant in the OC community.

no apologies required.

I distinctly remember tons of members here telling people "Yeah man, buy the 6400's they easily overclock to 1100mhz. No effing wonder there are so many dead Ballistix out there lol. Sometimes I think the overclocking community works against itself.

[gunbo13]

Originally Posted by reverandmaynard

no apologies required.

I distinctly remember tons of members here telling people "Yeah man, buy the 6400's they easily overclock to 1100mhz. No effing wonder there are so many dead Ballistix out there lol. Sometimes I think the overclocking community works against itself.

It's half our fault and half the memory companies fault. Wait a second...it's actually entirely the manufacturer's fault. They write the specs and the memory companies follow suit.

Many sites claimed optimal use of 2.2v for D9 PCB modules. This lead to tons of dead modules before you could blink an eye. However everyone stuck with D9 based modules because well, they are the fastest.

I've killed 4 pairs of Corsair D9s. One was >2.2v, one was =2.2v, and the others were below manufacturing constraints of ~2.0v. Also I had the dominator fan setup on all of the modules. 4 dead pairs was the result.

XS had a thread at one time with D9 death reports. Every serious overclocker had numerous sticks die. I formed a thread here and it was the same story. D9s are a crapshoot. You can't trust other owners saying their D9s are 100% stable because that's "their" hardware, not yours. And you certainly can't trust the manufacturer voltage specs.

Overclockers have to expect D9s to die. And they dont' disappoint.