Overclocking Phenom and Phenom II

[jbaranski111]

Originally Posted by ShrimpBrime

It's not just about stability. Extreme Over Clock. Well that means get to the most extreme speed that you can at all costs. The Higher the MAX over clock the higher the 2/4/7 over clock Could be.

The Phenom I's seem picky to the other hardware in the system as a whole. After viewing so many different Over Clocks, on so many different systems, I came to a mental conclusion that the average OC was about 3.120ghz. I did Not do any real mathematics over this situation. Basically a mentally gathered generalization of the average OC's.

To be @ 2.8ghz stable is divine. But to have 3.1 ghz bootable runnable and perhaps unstable could be considered an accomplishment. It matters to the Individuals PC system build as a whole. And also a little luck with a well built cpu (cherry picked to some).

I'd say in my personal build, that I am Very lucky to have a kick in the *** MotherBoard. It Overclocks anything I put in it to the max. I can always rely on this mobo until it dies.

And Nice OC jBaran

Well after weeks of overclcking and recording multipliers and fsb's here is my conclusion. I am benchmarking the same at 3.22 as I do at 3.3. The hypert and northbridge needs to be lower causing less performance and also It is not stable. I am stable as a rock at 3.22GHz and benchmark 16300 in 3dmark both ways. If I go lower with mult. and higher with fsb I get same results but when I go too low with a high Hypert and Northbridge with higher fsb, I crash or am unstable again. Tried raising voltages to compensate on both respectably to 1.4 and no luck. Sweet spot is 15.5 with a fsb of 207 giving me 3.217GHz. I will try 1 more on FSB and see what happens.

To get a higher overclock can mean a loss of performance. The sweet spot sometimes is lower than the max GHz for performance. You can gloat all you want over high GHz but performance is the name and I found it brother!!!!! Will attempt more!

[ShrimpBrime]

Originally Posted by jbaranski111

Well after weeks of overclcking and recording multipliers and fsb's here is my conclusion. I am benchmarking the same at 3.22 as I do at 3.3. The hypert and northbridge needs to be lower causing less performance and also It is not stable. I am stable as a rock at 3.22GHz and benchmark 16300 in 3dmark both ways. If I go lower with mult. and higher with fsb I get same results but when I go too low with a high Hypert and Northbridge with higher fsb, I crash or am unstable again. Tried raising voltages to compensate on both respectably to 1.4 and no luck. Sweet spot is 15.5 with a fsb of 207 giving me 3.217GHz. I will try 1 more on FSB and see what happens.

To get a higher overclock can mean a loss of performance. The sweet spot sometimes is lower than the max GHz for performance. You can gloat all you want over high GHz but performance is the name and I found it brother!!!!! Will attempt more!

Oh if your attempting to get awesome benchmark scores, your in the wrong section dude. You want to go here ---> http://forums.extremeoverclocking.co...splay.php?f=41

We are Over Clocking here for highest Mhz stable or not. you pick the clock speed you wish to brag about and get a CPU-Z and we can say you got it there.

If performance for benchmarks is what you are looking for, please see above posted link and Bench it off man. I used the 3DMark06 for a synthetic visual benchmark, that apparently runs stable. It was to show a simple score a that certain clock speed and no more.

I also included HyperPi Run for each bump of the processor OC. Also for a comparison from one speed to another. Just a quick peek at some kind of score to get an idea of calculation speed increase with sheer clock speed.

If that is your stable speed for best performance, it is about average. But your doing well with tweaking out the numbers. Now go get em in that Benchmark thread!!

PS. If you want a 3DMark06 challenge, You might want to bench off with some one that has a similar system to yours. I'll have no problem pushin 20k

[jbaranski111]

Originally Posted by ShrimpBrime

I'm not sure if you have your bios configured correctly in the bios.

Some pointers......

1st make sure memory is in unganged mode.
2nd Manually set the Ram to 800. (If this doesn't help try 667)
3rd Be sure Memory hole is enabled.
4th AMD cool and quite is disabled.

These are the basic solutions first.

I run 3 gigz of Ram on the same Mobo cause four it just seems unstable. But every system is different. Some Phenoms may only do 2.8 ghz. Mine only gets Around 3.150 ghz before hangs but I've seen 3.4 ghz. Kinda wierd really. Theres are large range of OC's for the Phenoms. It's almost like there's no "common ground" for Over Clocking. OR There are different serial phenoms that have better steppings than others

Additional Comment:



Do a clean install of Vista NO updates. Install the Drivers for the Mobo and Vid card only. Install The AMD O.D. and Over Clock. Let me know your results.

(Use a separate HD so you can save any data from the current install)

Correct me if I am wrong but if a board is dual channel, what is the advantage of 3 gigs????? Ot does your 1T make a difference in running 3G?

BTW what is the advantage of higher overclocking if your performance is less??? Is it like just a bragging deal???? I would prefer my performance to be maxed for different applications like crysis, battlefield, cod, video, ect...... I am close to my max overclock, toned down a bit for a bit of better performance!

[ShrimpBrime]

Originally Posted by jbaranski111

Correct me if I am wrong but if a board is dual channel, what is the advantage of 3 gigs????? Ot does your 1T make a difference in running 3G?

BTW what is the advantage of higher overclocking if your performance is less??? Is it like just a bragging deal???? I would prefer my performance to be maxed for different applications like crysis, battlefield, cod, video, ect...... I am close to my max overclock, toned down a bit for a bit of better performance!

Now your catching on dude. It's exactly a bragging deal!!! I mean that as serious as I can be.
No I don't run 3 gigs. Must have been a typo. I did have 4 gigs, 4 sticks and that seemed unstable. less sticks made for higher OC. Perhaps a bad one in the bunch or it was cause I was mixed matched.

So like this. I bet my cpu-z is faster than yous lol. That simple.

We do have a benchmark thread for performance and stability.

And Yes for most Athlon and Phenom OC's 1T would get me a higher FSB than 2T. Same thing if I where to lower the HT multi as low as possible.

Over clock to hit the MAX. Kinda like bench pressing weights. You always find your Max first then do the reps at a lower weight. The higher the MAX the bigger you look to your buddies right?


Says it all right there dood.

[Orac]

the reason why the AMD CPUs seem to clock better with fewer stick of RAM can be found in the IMC, its just a restriction that most people wont ever be worried (becasue they will never find it issue) about and isnt really an issue even for most OCers

[ShrimpBrime]

OP updated!! Added links for helpful guides for FSB (athlon type OCing and over drive and other utility links.

[Jamar16]

got my 9950 up to 3.4ghz at 1.48v trying to get 24hr stability tho. here is my validation

[ShrimpBrime]

Originally Posted by Jamar16

got my 9950 up to 3.4ghz at 1.48v trying to get 24hr stability tho. here is my validation

That is excellent work! Maybe a touch more voltage might help get some stability.

Additional Comment:

Newly Added!! AMD processor comparison chart from AMD.
http://products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCPUResult.aspx

Thanks for the idea Kleinteich2

[Zanex09]

so have any of you managed to get a high *** NB/HT clocks ??? right now my cpu is at 3120 (240x13) and ive got my NB/HT at 2160 (240x9)..

ive found my max clock as to where i want to max it, what if i were to raise the multi back up on the NB/HT for 2400 anyone been able to get these stable? or has anyone even tryed to get that??

rigs in sig if needed to know

[moosteve]

i had this stable.


http://forums.extremeoverclocking.co...1&d=1235233014

[Zanex09]

Originally Posted by moosteve

i had this stable.


http://forums.extremeoverclocking.co...1&d=1235233014

holy hell dude what kind of volts were you putting to that 2940 NB/HT?

[jjatinder]

hiiiiii , i am newbie to overclocking
i want to overclock amd sempron 3000+ socket am2 manila core 1.6ghz and i am having msi k9mm-v motherboard

please help me to overclock this

[ShrimpBrime]

Originally Posted by jjatinder

hiiiiii , i am newbie to overclocking
i want to overclock amd sempron 3000+ socket am2 manila core 1.6ghz and i am having msi k9mm-v motherboard

please help me to overclock this

Go to the first post in this thread. There are links at the top that you can read to familiarize your self with over clocking. Look for the second link titled "For Athlon OCing, see this guide" Sinply click that link and you'll be under way! .

And welcome to the forums BTW!

[moosteve]

Originally Posted by Zanex09

holy hell dude what kind of volts were you putting to that 2940 NB/HT?

well, as you can see, i had the cpu/nb @ 1.5 v, i think i had the nb 1.8V @ 2.0, and then the HTv and NBv were @ 1.26 and 1.24 respectively. i think. i didn't leave it too long as i only have stock passive cooling on the NB and that would worry me.

[Zanex09]

wow moose thats wicked, after watching you i tryed a little NB OC and managed to get it up to 2400 and it was stable enough to run 3dmark06 and complete it, my MCP got to 68 so i restarted and clocked them back down...

Additional Comment:

k heres a new clock speed for me hope you guys like her... im not at home so i have a pic from the other post in "show off your phenom II clocks"

validation
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=549518


let me know if you cant open the picture, cause for some reason i cant now

[Orac]

cant open that upload for some reason, maybe a problem with the server i dont know.

oh thats nice OC you got there

[Zanex09]

thanks orac, i finally got a clock that i can be proud of (or somewhat proud of) and i guess ill try to reload it on my home computer and see how that goes




there i got it, i copied it wrong off the original post

[dlank1]

hello maybe ive missread it,but i have the phenom 2 940,with the asus m3n-ht deluxe mobo,so my question is how do i get 3.6GHZ,ide be happy with that

thanks alot

[Zanex09]

Originally Posted by dlank1

hello maybe ive missread it,but i have the phenom 2 940,with the asus m3n-ht deluxe mobo,so my question is how do i get 3.6GHZ,ide be happy with that

thanks alot

you can start with this guide and then from there you can read the first post on this thread

http://forums.extremeoverclocking.co...d.php?t=151373

Additional Comment:

make sure your rig is ready for OC'ing as in aftermarket cooler. a decent psu and some decent ram

[dlank1]

ok maybe ive missed something lol,but how do i overclock my amd phenom 2 940,on the asus m3n-ht deluxe mobo,ide like 3.Ghz,if ive missed something then ime sorry lol




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