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Old 09-08-2008, 01:40 PM   #221
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Crosshair II formula BIOS 0901 is out... loaded it up and my system is actually running a little faster... got 12 more points in 3D Mark... strange that a BIOS update would do that... but what the heck... I'll take w/e I can get...

Ordered the new parts for my system... I will be building it slowly as I have a ton of modding to do on the new case...

Phenom 9950 to replace my 9850 that I'm selling to my friend
CoolerMaster HAF932 case
1 more Swiftec 355 pump
2 120.4 rads
1 120.2 rad
2 BFG GTX 260's w/DD WC blocks (couldn't afford the $200 each extra for the 280's but I can OC the 260's to well past what the 280's are stock)
secondary 450 WATT VGA PSU (goes in a single 5.25 bay)
6 110 CFM 120mm fans
2 133 CFM 140mm fans
1TB HD
really cool card reader/fan controller/temp monitor
Sound dampening material to line the inside of the case
UV Blue spray paint to spray the inside of the case and the sound dampening material and rads and w/e else I feel like painting
UV blue cold cathodes
UV blue LED plugs
tons and tons of fittings, mounts, ties, and all sorts of stuff to make it look it's best...
plus most of the stuff that's in my sig

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Old 09-08-2008, 04:06 PM   #222
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Passed OCCT, ran some benchmarks with 3dmark06. temps on each core got up to 54c. cpu temp hit 62c. then when i try to play crysis or cod4 it freezes. tried uninstalling reinstalling driver. swapped out 1066 with 800. backed off the overclock and its running sluggish now. got IRQL_NOT_LESS even after installing driver again. thought i would try a fresh install since i didn't do so after changing out processors. thats when i got PFN_LIST_CORRUPT. when i swapped cases and put this processor in and i dropped the hard drive on the wood floor. I hope I didn't damage it. then again I hope I didn't fry my cpu by putting 1.5v in the cpu-nb. I have only had it a couple of days so i will try to rma it. should have been happy with 3ghz :-(.
can you post your memory timings & volts....(as well as what they're rated @). not sure but it sounds like a RAM issue [to me].

do you have your GPU(s) OC'd? also your CPU temps are peaking...what are your cooling specs?

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Sound dampening material to line the inside of the case
that stuff makes a big difference for looks & sound

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Old 09-08-2008, 05:05 PM   #223
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I have 2x2gb OCZ platinum. I tried at 1066 5-5-5-18-26 2t, 2.1v, dual channel unganged. everything passed though. I even ran 3dmark06 twice. I started freezing in COD4 and Crysis. So I swapped out 4x1gb crucial ballistix. I tried at 800 4-4-4-12-24 2t, 2.2v. That passed too. Still kept freezing,but only in games. Graphics cards are factory overclocked. I did reinstall drivers twice thinking that was causing it. Used driver sweeper when I did. I wonder if the constant reboots and freezing from overclocking corrupted my hard drive. I will try a fresh install when I get home. I thought core temps were what I was suppose to watch not cpu. When they say 61c max, doesn't that mean core temps? Do you think I fried it? I put 1.5v into the CPU-NB to get stable at 3.1ghz (or so OCCT said). Maybe I fried the mem-controller? I have only had it a couple of days. I will RMA if I have to.

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Everything is new, except my hard drive (which I dropped on the ground while installing)
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Old 09-08-2008, 05:51 PM   #224
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I have 2x2gb OCZ platinum. I tried at 1066 5-5-5-18-26 2t, 2.1v, dual channel unganged. everything passed though. I even ran 3dmark06 twice. I started freezing in COD4 and Crysis. So I swapped out 4x1gb crucial ballistix. I tried at 800 4-4-4-12-24 2t, 2.2v. That passed too. Still kept freezing,but only in games. Graphics cards are factory overclocked. I did reinstall drivers twice thinking that was causing it. Used driver sweeper when I did. I wonder if the constant reboots and freezing from overclocking corrupted my hard drive. I will try a fresh install when I get home. I thought core temps were what I was suppose to watch not cpu. When they say 61c max, doesn't that mean core temps? Do you think I fried it? I put 1.5v into the CPU-NB to get stable at 3.1ghz (or so OCCT said). Maybe I fried the mem-controller? I have only had it a couple of days. I will RMA if I have to.

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Everything is new, except my hard drive (which I dropped on the ground while installing)
nah, I don't think you fried anything. I was just saying that you should keep a close eye on your CPU/Core temp-it's just kinda high by my tastes....60c is pushing it

BTW: You may be want to try a dedicated sound card. I know in past experiences I've been held up do to using onboard Audio

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Old 09-09-2008, 11:49 AM   #225
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that stuff makes a big difference for looks & sound
That's what I've heard. I will be using it more as asthetics as my system will be running much quieter with the extra rads, but if it makes it a db or 2 quieter I'm all for it.
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Old 09-09-2008, 12:43 PM   #226
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That's what I've heard. I will be using it more as asthetics as my system will be running much quieter with the extra rads, but if it makes it a db or 2 quieter I'm all for it.
Never used acoustical foam in a computer. I have used it in conjunct in recordings (i.e. on the wall or near microphone).

The concept is that the sound waves are dampened as they hit the surface they have less of a chance of bouncing back into the case. The foam is slowing the wave down on the way into the metal part beneath the foam and slowing the bounce (i.e. reverberation) of the wave on the way back.
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Old 09-09-2008, 01:11 PM   #227
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ya they have it for cars as well, seen it at crutchfield. dinamatt is what its called or something. they make ones for computers specifically dont know if theres a difference tho
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Old 09-09-2008, 02:22 PM   #228
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In automotive and computer case installations, the material is a vibration dampener. In acoustic application (recording and high end listening rooms) the material is designed to absorb and change reflection direction of sound waves.

In the case of the HAF932, it would be best to use a Dynamat type product to help with any rogue vibrations within the case. The case is designed for high airflow (huge open vents, large fan grates, etc) and as such, any acoustically reflective material would have a far more detrimental effect than benefit.

I am about 4 hours wort of work away from buttoning up everything in my HAF and will be writing up a full build report as well as my continued efforts to OC this 9950BE.
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Old 09-10-2008, 10:44 AM   #229
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Thanks zltful... I appreciate the input... in my application though I'm not too concerned with the airflow within the case, just that the case is huge enough to fit all my stuff... the stuff I got is the more expensive 3-layer stuff at frozencpu... I can cut it to fit around vents and stuff... it's more for making the inside of the case black than anything else, but I figured that if I'm going to put something in there for color it might as well serve another porpose as well...

I will be fully documenting my build as well... look forward to seeing how our HAF cases turn out looking...
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Going to update my HAF932 thread in the cases and mods section. Stop on by and throw up some words of encouragement ad some opinions of your own experiences.
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Old 09-10-2008, 11:11 PM   #231
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nah, I don't think you fried anything. I was just saying that you should keep a close eye on your CPU/Core temp-it's just kinda high by my tastes....60c is pushing it

BTW: You may be want to try a dedicated sound card. I know in past experiences I've been held up do to using onboard Audio
It was fried. Sent it back and got a beauty. This thing runs at 3.1ghz with 1.375 volts OCCT stabe. JAAHB AA 0829APAW batch/stepping. first one was JAAAB AA. I can boot into windows at 3.2 with 1.4v but it will fail OCCT within 5 minutes. Crash code 1, whatever that means. I am sure with a little tweaking I could get it stable, but I am very happy with 3.1ghz. I am also able to run my memory dual channel 1066. First cpu I could not. It would freeze loading windows everytime. Thanks for you help by the way. Maybe if I get brave enough you can help me get to 3.2. CPU temps only reach 52c underload
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It was fried. Sent it back and got a beauty. This thing runs at 3.1ghz with 1.375 volts OCCT stabe. JAAHB AA 0829APAW batch/stepping. first one was JAAAB AA. I can boot into windows at 3.2 with 1.4v but it will fail OCCT within 5 minutes. Crash code 1, whatever that means. I am sure with a little tweaking I could get it stable, but I am very happy with 3.1ghz. I am also able to run my memory dual channel 1066. First cpu I could not. It would freeze loading windows everytime. Thanks for you help by the way. Maybe if I get brave enough you can help me get to 3.2. CPU temps only reach 52c underload
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That's quite an achievement I wonder though if you REALLY fried it or it was just a dud in the first place? My 9850 (which I just gave to my buddies roommate) wouldn't do anything past 2.5GHz...on 3 different AM2+ boards; under water. I remember you saying your temps were rather high (high 50's to low 60's), but geez man; that shouldn't fry it.

Oh well heh? At least your in better business now {just watch those temps}
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Old 09-11-2008, 04:02 AM   #233
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these 9850s doent seem to OC as well as the 9950s. i am thinking about investing in 9950 to replace my 9850 to see if it will clock further or whether its the CPU, mobo or RAM thats stopping the darn thing from clocking
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these 9850s doent seem to OC as well as the 9950s. i am thinking about investing in 9950 to replace my 9850 to see if it will clock further or whether its the CPU, mobo or RAM thats stopping the darn thing from clocking
It's the motherboards that are the bottlenecks.
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It's the motherboards that are the bottlenecks.
I beg to differ my good man I firmly believe that some of the first batch 9850s are OCing duds. I've read through enough threads of people stating such, (including my tribulations). The highest OC I was able to achieve was a very unstable 2.7GHz (on 3 different boards BioStar 8200 / DFI DK790FX / Gigabyte 750a SLi). All of my short comings were on water so temps were definatley under control. There are a slew of others that have easily hit 3.0GHz w/o even touching the FSB and/or VID

Now, 1st gen AM2+ boards are a bottleneck (if not imminent death since many can't even handle the 125W+ TDP quads). The 2nd gen AM2+ boards do appear to fair much better...ie nVidia 7xxa & AMD790GX.
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Old 09-11-2008, 09:08 PM   #236
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I must just be lucky. My board is not bottlenecking my cpu at all. I'm at 3.0 on 1.36v on stock cooling. I want to get better cooling and see if I can hit 3.2.
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Lol I love my Phenom. 9850 BE ran 3.0 ghz on air and 3.0 ghz on liquid. Vista OS removed, replaced by XP64. It's hard to get stable past 3.1 ghz.

Funny part......Bios posts fine even @ 3.4 ghz, temps great, change settings what ever I need in bios. The darn thing just wont post Windows after 3.2+ghz.

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Would Running a Raid array help with posting windows?? Any body??
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Would Running a Raid array help with posting windows?? Any body??
IMO it may be more difficult running an array; taxing your chipset more than a single drive??? just my thought
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Old 09-12-2008, 12:24 AM   #239
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Hey guys i have a 9950 amd phenom also along with a k9a2 msi mobo with nvidia sli ram how should i got with ram timings and frequency cuz i go into my bios and set my muiltiplyer by 15x bt when i save and exit it just restarts it self wut should i do??
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Lol I love my Phenom. 9850 BE ran 3.0 ghz on air and 3.0 ghz on liquid. Vista OS removed, replaced by XP64. It's hard to get stable past 3.1 ghz.

Funny part......Bios posts fine even @ 3.4 ghz, temps great, change settings what ever I need in bios. The darn thing just wont post Windows after 3.2+ghz.

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Would Running a Raid array help with posting windows?? Any body??
I don't think Raid array will help you. I can run 3.3 and posting windows with array, but for 3.4 as I recall I only able to post bios, not windows. I run RAID 0 with 9950 phenom and MSI K9A2 Platinum.
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