Vista security discovered to be even more useless

[Maniac]

Originally Posted by Mindwarp

Then why don't you just use Win 2000? Seriously, why are you using Vista if an older os is fine for you?

better multithreading, dx10, superfetch, 64 bit, there's plenty of reasons to use Vista....

also better multimedia handling.

Is having the power of Win 2000 Pro and the features of Vista too much to ask?

[SSPrncVegeta]

Originally Posted by Maniac

not quite, you have to make all the same tweaks to Vista that you have to make to XP to make it function like Windows 2000 (IE all the folder options - showing hidden files, showing filename extensions, setting default view to detail view, turn off simple folder navigation, turn off simple file sharing/sharing wizard. Fixing the control panel default view back to classic. Fixing the start menu to classic if you hate the both the XP and Vista ones like me).

All of which takes a faction of the time needed for the regular format/installations of 2000 and XP. I'd rather do it once and be done with it than have to reinstall the entire OS every six months.

[BigE4u]

Personally, i dont see anything wrong with "refreshing" an OS every 6months...

[SSPrncVegeta]

It's the software equivalent of keeping an Apple computer "up to date." Throw away the old and start anew. I always thought that was an advantage to PC over Macintosh, longevity. Why isn't it for operating systems?

[b1lk1]

Another tin foil hat story......

Seriously, noone forces anyone to use any OS. There were/are just as many issues with XP and it has been proven that even OS-X is easier to hack than Vista. This is not news, it is just garbage.........

[SiXiam]

Wow, a thread from a bunch of complainers.
How original!

Seriously, don't buy Vista (or pirate it) if you feel its so bad.

[Th3_uN1Qu3]

Originally Posted by Maniac

it's possible to fix the "remember folder view setting" issue:
http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/70...-settings.html

Thanks, i'll give it a shot when i get home.

Originally Posted by SSPrncVegeta

Ditto. I've had the same exact install I've had since January 30th, 2007, and with updates and maintenance it's running better than then. I was never able to get an XP install to last this long.

TinyXP Platinum 2 install on my dual-PIII, tweaked even further. 2 years, 2 mobo swaps (same chipset tho), one CPU upgrade (2x 667MHz @ 500 -> 2x700MHz, still need a mobo that will do FSB 133 and get along with my 9800 Pro), 2 RAM upgrades (512-> 768-> 1GB) and 3 video card swaps (GF2 -> Radeon 9250 -> Radeon 9800 Pro 256MB) down. Still running like in first day, and booting in 25 seconds.

However i have to admit that when i only had 2GB RAM in my C2D and used to dual-boot Vista 32 and XP 32, i used Vista several times to recover XP when it crapped out, but everytime it was due to my RAM acting up.

[Maniac]

Originally Posted by Th3_uN1Qu3

Thanks, i'll give it a shot when i get home.

BTW, use the manual method, not the other 2.

[justinsn95]

Originally Posted by b1lk1

Another tin foil hat story......

Seriously, noone forces anyone to use any OS. There were/are just as many issues with XP and it has been proven that even OS-X is easier to hack than Vista. This is not news, it is just garbage.........

I don't think they should release it till it's done. I mean really done. Maybe they need the customer feedback to get it all going correctly? Just like XP, it's so glitchy and buggy and slow when it first come out. It's irritating to buy something new and have it be that way.

[Th3_uN1Qu3]

Originally Posted by Maniac

BTW, use the manual method, not the other 2.

Thanks, it worked. I am now one happy Vista 64 user.

[Maniac]

Originally Posted by Th3_uN1Qu3

Thanks, it worked. I am now one happy Vista 64 user.

Yeah that frustrated me for a while too til I found the fix. So pathetic that problem exists...

[ether.real]

Originally Posted by justinsn95

I don't think they should release it till it's done. I mean really done. Maybe they need the customer feedback to get it all going correctly? Just like XP, it's so glitchy and buggy and slow when it first come out. It's irritating to buy something new and have it be that way.

The amount of man-hours of testing to find the bugs that are found in the first year of an OS's life would be so huge, it would probably take an additional 10 years and the license would probably cost 5x as much as a result. Its a fact of life, time to deal with it.

[Th3_uN1Qu3]

Originally Posted by Maniac

Yeah that frustrated me for a while too til I found the fix. So pathetic that problem exists...

Well, it DID work, but the updates it just received (apart from restarting my computer without requesting confirmation) messed it up again. Oh great. It can't remember a ****ing window size.

Edit: It does, but only if i resize/apply views/whatever to the parent window i navigated to that window from. Freakin' annoying if you'd ask me.

[Maniac]

Originally Posted by Th3_uN1Qu3

Well, it DID work, but the updates it just received (apart from restarting my computer without requesting confirmation) messed it up again. Oh great. It can't remember a ****ing window size.

Edit: It does, but only if i resize/apply views/whatever to the parent window i navigated to that window from. Freakin' annoying if you'd ask me.

Did you increase the MRU cache? After doing that I haven't had any problems. If you have an inordinate amount of folders maybe you need to increase it larger than the suggested amount on the website?

I haven't had any windows updates mess it up (then again, I haven't gotten the most recent windows updates).

[Th3_uN1Qu3]

Originally Posted by Maniac

Did you increase the MRU cache? After doing that I haven't had any problems. If you have an inordinate amount of folders maybe you need to increase it larger than the suggested amount on the website?

I haven't had any windows updates mess it up (then again, I haven't gotten the most recent windows updates).

Yes i did increase the MRU cache, to 30000 instead of 20000 recommended. I had a lot of updates since we've just finished redecorating the house, and i just had the internet cable for my rig fixed yesterday, so it installed a bunch of stuff.

It works now, but it really annoys me that it only remembers views in parent windows.

[rupchurc]

I vote for Windows XP 2009!!! Retro style!

[Th3_uN1Qu3]

Originally Posted by rupchurc

I vote for Windows XP 2009!!! Retro style!

Well, DX10 for XP is almost done, too bad it's only for 32-bit.

[gunbo13]

Originally Posted by Th3_uN1Qu3

Well, DX10 for XP is almost done, too bad it's only for 32-bit.

Link to information please.

[rupchurc]

Originally Posted by Th3_uN1Qu3

Well, DX10 for XP is almost done, too bad it's only for 32-bit.

Thats cool, havent heard of that yet. 32bit thought, ehh.

[justinsn95]

Originally Posted by ether.real

The amount of man-hours of testing to find the bugs that are found in the first year of an OS's life would be so huge, it would probably take an additional 10 years and the license would probably cost 5x as much as a result. Its a fact of life, time to deal with it.

So maybe it should be that they stay with one OS longer, so we get to wait longer before we have to suffer that again. So i take it they do rely on the customer to help out with the bugs?