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Old 12-23-2002, 02:35 PM   #1
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OPP's VapoChill Review

OPPAINTERS Vapochill PE review is up over at XS.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/mricee/...chill%20PE.htm

Its a real good read.
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Old 12-23-2002, 03:31 PM   #2
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yes the Vapochill is great if u have a powerful PSU with a good +12v and if you're using Intel..

I had this before and installation on the Intel was flawless...very easy. But AMD is another story.

I recommend people buying this if you have an Intel system and at least a 500w PSU with at least 20amps on the +12v
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Old 12-23-2002, 03:36 PM   #3
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In the review OPP mentions problems with a Intel Install and Ice build up also the promy costs like 250% more electricity to run than a VapoChill
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Old 12-23-2002, 03:40 PM   #4
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yeah he mentioned that happened on his Prometeia...
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Old 12-23-2002, 03:46 PM   #5
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o ok my bad i read that pretty quick
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Old 12-27-2002, 05:43 AM   #6
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Anyone else think his temps on the Vapo were a little "off"?
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Old 12-27-2002, 10:07 AM   #7
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The Vapo will get about 15c warmer temps at full OC than a Prometeia
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Old 12-27-2002, 10:11 AM   #8
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Anyone else think his temps on the Vapo were a little "off"?
what do you mean...they look right.
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Old 12-27-2002, 11:05 AM   #9
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A little off topic but did you guys read Tom's review on the prometiea and how when overclocking @ 3.06 to 4.1ghz, the processor draws about 80amps @ 1.7v. This is a big problem in my eyes, the motherboard's mofsets are being strained like crazy when we overclock with these exotic cooling systems. Between myself and a friend we burnt 2 Abit BD7II's because of voltage/mods extreme oveclocking. Although, I think the abit bd7ii has a flaw in it's mofset design or is just not made to be pushed to this extreme for long periods of time. I have read reports of a lot of people burning these boards with overclocking. My asus board does not have this problem nor do the mofsets get nearly as hot.
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Old 12-27-2002, 01:10 PM   #10
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It just seems that I can get better temps with my TEC then he gets with a Vapochill unit.
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Old 12-27-2002, 01:31 PM   #11
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It just seems that I can get better temps with my TEC then he gets with a Vapochill unit.
I am thinking the same dogman, as soon as I get my water chiller running (-4c coolant) + tec, I know I will be seeing killer temps that no Phase vapour change system will be able to rival It will put my vapochill to shame.
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Also, forgot too mention another advantage when water cooling below ambient temps is that there is alot less stress (metal fatigue) put on the cpu due to smaller variations in temperature between idle and load.
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I get about the same swing between idle and load as he did in his review, about 15C. But my full load temps on my TEC are like 0-2C. And my idle is about -13C. I just run room temp water, nothing special.
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Old 12-27-2002, 02:11 PM   #14
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Old 12-27-2002, 02:23 PM   #15
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I just read that review word for word. I will admit part of me knows if I had the cash I'd own one. It was also written very well and answered most of my questions about phase-change cooling.
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Dogman you are making me drool! Nice temps dude!
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Also, forgot too mention another advantage when water cooling below ambient temps is that there is alot less stress (metal fatigue) put on the cpu due to smaller variations in temperature between idle and load.
So after seeing your results with Tec, I can see that the variation is as big as with phase vapur making the statement above incorrect. I guess when you are straight water cooling there is little variation. But the TEC generates an enormous amount of heat to be carried away by your water. It will be interesting to see if the water is maintained at a solid temp what the results will be. Dogman, does your water temp increase dramatically when in load conditions for a prolonged period of time?
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Old 12-27-2002, 02:47 PM   #18
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My water stays at ambient +4C at full load. My machine is never at idle for more then a few mins as this rig runs folding 24/7. I'd imagine at idle the water would stay at ambient. Maybe some day I'll actually let it sit and idle for a few hours to see.
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Old 12-27-2002, 02:49 PM   #19
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well keep in mind its a lot safer than tec/chilled water cooling too..
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well keep in mind its a lot safer than tec/chilled water cooling too..
Yeah..I see your point there are advantages, but improperly installed a phase-vapour system can be equally as dangerous.

You won't see the failure right away as with a water-leak but over a prolonged period of time you will have condensation buld-up destroying components. Although with TEC+water you have the same risk, probably more if you are going the home-brew route and do not take proper anti-condensation measures.
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