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Old 05-30-2009, 01:18 AM   #1
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Exclamation nVidia GTX 285^2 - A GTX 295 With Added Horse Power.....

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It is a single PCB dual GTX 285 card. Sort of like the GTX 295, but with added horsepower. The NVIDIA drivers will recognize it as a dual-GPU GTX 295 card, but it uses two G200-350-B3 GPUs. So that's 480 shader processors, and a whopping 4GB of GDDR3 memory.
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Old 05-30-2009, 01:31 AM   #2
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its not single pcb though, pretty much follows the standard 295 design with new chips on the boards

also its a very limited run of just 1000 cards
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Old 05-30-2009, 08:02 AM   #3
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its not single pcb though, pretty much follows the standard 295 design with new chips on the boards

also its a very limited run of just 1000 cards

Not only that, but the performance increase should prove to be pretty much negligible from going from a 295.

Sure, the extra memory bandwidth will be nice, but people already running GTX285s in SLI won't see a difference. Also, is 2GB per GPU really needed?
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Old 05-30-2009, 09:17 AM   #4
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Asus fuses together 2 GTX285 in a completely new way!!



Asus is heading to Mars, but not in a planetary sense. The company has gotten frisky and has designed the Asus Mars 295 Limited Edition, a revamp of the GeForce GTX 295 reference card that uses the same device ID and existing Nvidia drivers. The difference here isn't exactly a complete makeover, but rather the implementation of several special features not found on other GeForce GTX 295 helpings currently on the market.

According to TechPowerUp, the Asus Mars 295 Limited Edition uses two G200-350-B3 GPUs, the same processors used on the GeForce GTX 285. Mounted on a dual-layer PCB (printed circuit board), Asus has loaded 32 memory chips (16 per PCB) and opened up the GDDR3 memory interface to 512-bit, enabling a full 4 GB of memory (2 GB for each processor). The GPUs themselves, one on each PCB, have all the 240 shader processors enabled (1476 MHz), however they still clock in at 648 MHz, the memory at 2400 MHz each.


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Old 05-30-2009, 04:39 PM   #5
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in a limited pack of only 1000 pieces around the world
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Old 05-30-2009, 06:38 PM   #6
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in a limited pack of only 1000 pieces around the world
They are probably leftover GTX 285 chips. Asus attempts to clear their inventory and makes room for GT300 series.

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TOTALLY agree with zollen on this, I mean who wouldn't do that?
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Old 05-31-2009, 09:36 AM   #8
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They are probably leftover GTX 285 chips. Asus attempts to clear their inventory and makes room for GT300 series.
Ummm....or they did this and will put an $800 price tag on it to make a killing on the fanboys........they aren't going to spend the money in R&D to make a special card when all they had to do to clear inventory was drop the price on the 285's by $100 and if this was for the GT300 series then where are the deals everywhere else?

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TOTALLY agree with zollen on this, I mean who wouldn't do that?
See post above.......

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Ummm....or they did this and will put an $800 price tag on it to make a killing on the fanboys........they aren't going to spend the money in R&D to make a special card when all they had to do to clear inventory was drop the price on the 285's by $100 and if this was for the GT300 series then where are the deals everywhere else?

See post above.......
There is no R&D for making special cards like MARs. The MARs are still utilizing the existing technologies (3rd party non-nForce 200 chip, hopefully better) for fusing two GT285 chips together, just arrange them a little differently from conventional GTX295.
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Old 05-31-2009, 10:41 AM   #10
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and to make the drivers work...........

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There is no R&D for making special cards like MARs. The MARs are still utilizing the existing technologies (3rd party non-nForce 200 chip, hopefully better) for fusing two GT285 chips together, just arrange them a little differently from conventional GTX295.
because this took no R&D at all, they just popped them down in the right way on the first shot

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Old 05-31-2009, 10:52 AM   #11
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Yeah.

Have you ever stopped to look at your motherboard or your GPU? I mean, actually looking at them? See where those wires and transistors and caps are located?

That takes planning, and moving even one transistor you will need to reroute all nearby wires, etc.

What Asus is attempting basically requires a redesigning the PCB while allowing it to be compatiable with the original 295 hardware, etc. That takes a lot of planning and R&D. I doubt even a mid-level engineer with some experience could do what Asus is doing.

No, this takes teams of highly experienced professionals to do this.
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I think we have a different concept of R&D. To me redesigning a PCB does not require R&D, but it would require a team of engineers to redesign a new PCB based on the current design and test it. Nothing more.

Seriously if Asus could lower the current GTX285 model by $100 dollar, they would have already done it.
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Old 05-31-2009, 12:04 PM   #13
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PCB's aren't too hard to design, computers design them mostly, there is very little a human needs to do. I did this as part of my Engineering degree.
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PCB's aren't too hard to design, computers design them mostly, there is very little a human needs to do. I did this as part of my Engineering degree.
I designed a simple 8 bits calculator when I was in school and I am not even an electrical engineer. I put makeups on chimpanzees for living.
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Old 05-31-2009, 12:19 PM   #15
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I have a friend who put his arm up cows arses for a living but you beat that hands down my friend LOL

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I think we have a different concept of R&D. To me redesigning a PCB does not require R&D, but it would require a team of engineers to redesign a new PCB based on the current design and test it. Nothing more.

Seriously if Asus could lower the current GTX285 model by $100 dollar, they would have already done it.
Why? If I were them I'd milk the public for every cent I could.....oh yeah they are
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wow what a ripoff. i want one
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Why? If I were them I'd milk the public for every cent I could.....oh yeah they are

Eventually GTX285 will be able to lower by $100 with the release of GT300 series, or even more advance models.

But now, My guess is Asus cannot arbitrarily lower the price x amount of dollar. They still have agreement with Nvidia. Not to mention that would create negative price competitions among other Nvidia vendors like EVGA, XFX, BFG...etc

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wow what a ripoff. i want one
If you meant the MARs, yes I want one too. No doubt the MARs is the most powerful GTX295 model in the market. But I fear the 1000 pieces limited may drive up the price.

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no matter what it costs, i whant two of them.
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Old 05-31-2009, 05:05 PM   #20
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Am I correct that the current GTX295 models use a different GT200 chips x 2 (not GTX285 chips)?
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