i am building my first comp

[spottedzebra]

i still think you should go with 8 gigs of ram. so you could down grade the case and skip the sound card to get the 4 more gigs.

i have run some intensive programs on my rig and the ram is the only limiting factor with 4 gigs. if i got 8 eveything would run seamlessly

[CaligulaPwns]

Does the 902 have the dust filters?

[TurdDrive]

Originally Posted by ELItheICEman

However, as much as most of us love the Antec 900, the several fans are guilty of one thing - importing dust. That is, if you don't regularly vacuum your carpets and open your windows. But it's not too bad to clean out if you just power down your system and hit it with some compressed air every now and then. Just as long as it's more than 2x a year

i do clean my pc regular (once every 2-3 months)(if that regular)

but living in the uk windows are generally kept closed due to poor weather

[godfromdfo]

I also recomend 8 gigs for you, let me check something, watch this post ill update it

[ELItheICEman]

Originally Posted by CaligulaPwns

Does the 902 have the dust filters?

Yes, it should. Or at least according to the Google machine it does

[spottedzebra]

dust filter aka pantyhose cut to size and streched over the opening/fan

[godfromdfo]

8GB 1066 Corasiar Dominators
Great Phenom Quad
1GB HD4870
640GB WD
750 Corsair PSU

LN19340
1X Coolermaster CM-690 V2 Dominator Black Midi Tower Case with Mesh Top Panel w/o PSU £54.69 £62.89

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2X 4GB (2x2GB) Corsair TwinX DDR2 XMS2 Dominator, PC2-8500(1066), 240Pin, NonECC Unbuffered, CAS 5, EPP £103.70 £119.26

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1X CMPSU-750HXUK - 750W Corsair HX Series PSU, ATX, EPS12V, Modular, UK Version £99.75 £114.71


TOTAL: £759.82 With postage and packaging

[TurdDrive]

Originally Posted by spotted zebr

i still think you should go with 8 gigs of ram. so you could down grade the case and skip the sound card to get the 4 more gigs.

i have run some intensive programs on my rig and the ram is the only limiting factor with 4 gigs. if i got 8 eveything would run seamlessly

how much quality would i lose to a normal Sound Card

+
would i be able in future to add a dedicated one?

1GB HD4870

thats a Graphics card right?

[godfromdfo]

Originally Posted by TurdDrive

how much quality would i lose to a normal Sound Card

+
would i be able in future to add a dedicated one?

No quality at all in most cases, with the mobo I gave you, you would probably not notice the diffrence between dedicated and onboard, but, if you do not like the onboard one you could always add a dedicated one :P

[TurdDrive]

so the mobo is compatible to do so with that?

i wont do it know but i might in future
i shall be playing games like UT3 to test my maps

[godfromdfo]

Yes, 100% compatible.
that motherboard also has onboard graphics, so just say you cant afford to buy the gpu but can afford the rest of the system you could just use the onboard graphics until you get the gpu :P

[spottedzebra]

yes the mobo is compatible to do so in the future. and it is very easy no wire or anything to plug in just put it in a slot and load the drivers

Additional Comment:

Originally Posted by godfromdfo

Yes, 100% compatible.
that motherboard also has onboard graphics, so just say you cant afford to buy the gpu but can afford the rest of the system you could just use the onboard graphics until you get the gpu :P

do you think there may be problems in disabling the onboard graphics to get the dedicated gpu to work correctly. i have heard of this and someone who is building there first one may find this somewhat frustrating and confusing.

[CaligulaPwns]

Not at all on the graphics question zebr

[godfromdfo]

Well guys, I have to go now, so I cant help anymore, but that should be a good base system.. cyas :P

[Zanex09]

well i suggest if you do buy the x4 810 you get a aftermarket cooler aswell i wouldnt trust the stock as it is mine is stock and it gets pretty hot with a cooler master hyper z600r so maybe you could get an xigmatek s1283 (the original) its about 30~ bucks in canada so it should be decent in UK too

Additional Comment:

crap i forgot this had a second page, finished reading and it still looks relevant so yeah


other than that looks like a good solid build

[TurdDrive]

thanks guys been a real good help

will look more into it tommorow

Additional Comment:

ok
i told a couple of frirend about this and they said

It's a good spec but I'm certain you can get it cheaper. Not looked at the other parts, but I've seen the 4870 going for less than £100 + VAT, which is superb value for money.

It's not bad but you'd prolly be fine with 4GB of RAM and not 8GB if all you are using is the Unreal Editor and some photoshop. I'd also spring the cash for an Intel build over AMD as it's more efficent, overclocks better, and has a bigger community backing it for support. The video card is alright but they have already come out with a better model HD4890 so you might want to look for that instead or even a nVidia GTX 275

why you going for an ATI GPU? and that's well expensive for the ram... and AMD??? Intel man. AMD sucks. Godd PSU. it's modular too but I'm not sure if it's silent. Noisy disk drive but it should do the job... You should get intel, seriosuly and an ASUS mobo. ATI/AMD suck... you've got enough of a budget to get intel, why are you getting AMD?lool

most 'problems' with cards are due to not completely removing old/competing drivers. Ati has utilities to help get rid of old stuff AFAIK.
A good trick is to switch to the default VGA-driver and running registry-cleaners afterwards. That way the OS will allow you to better clean remaining files.

laptops are notorious for having crappy graphics and drivers that aren't updated regardless of brand.
Heck ... most games specifically mention laptops as being problematic or at best unsupported.

I'd recommend picking whatever card offers the most value for money at a price-range you like. Chosing nVidia (or Ati) simply because of misplaced brand-loyality is what will make you waste money on features that aren't likely to be supported or that are overrated (like PhysX)

[AceferN]

why you going for an ATI GPU? and that's well expensive for the ram... and AMD??? Intel man. AMD sucks. Godd PSU. it's modular too but I'm not sure if it's silent. Noisy disk drive but it should do the job... You should get intel, seriosuly and an ASUS mobo. ATI/AMD suck... you've got enough of a budget to get intel, why are you getting AMD?lool

i lol'd

But yea, you might want to think about a better GPU, like the 4890...if you can fit the budget. Im not sure just how much processing power your program needs though, so it might be a waste.

The 4870 is a very good card.

[TurdDrive]

ohh and ow much does the cheapest vista go for?

do they's come with the corresponding cabels

[AceferN]

I think Vista can be found on newegg for $100.
I dont know for the store you use

[TurdDrive]

Originally Posted by AceferN

i lol'd

But yea, you might want to think about a better GPU, like the 4890...if you can fit the budget. Im not sure just how much processing power your program needs though, so it might be a waste.

The 4870 is a very good card.

i talked to some fellow Mappers and they said 4 Gig would be enough

Additional Comment:

are these any good for a monitor?

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- TFT-LCD Panel
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- True Resolution: 1920X1080
- Pixel Pitch: 0.248mm
- Brightness(Max): 300 cd/?
- Contrast Ratio (Max.): 20000 :1 (ASCR)
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- Viewing Angle (CR?10): 170(H)/160(V)
- Response Time: 5 ms
- Video Features
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- SPLENDID Video Preset Modes (5 modes)
- Skin-Tone Selection (3 mode)
- HDCP support
- Color Temperature Selection(5 modes)
- Audio Features
- Stereo Speakers 2Wx2 stereo RMS
- Convenient Hotkey
- SPLENDID Video Preset Mode Selection
- Auto. Adjustment
- Brightness Adjustment
- Volume Adjustment
- Input Selection
- Input / Output
- PC Input: DVI-D/D-Sub
- PC Audio Input: 3.5mm Mini-jack
- Video Input: HDMI
- AV Audio Input: HDMI
- Audio Output: SPDIF
- Earphone jack: 3.5mm Mini-jack
- Signal Frequency
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- Power Consumption
- Power Consumption < 55 W
- Power Saving Mode < 2 W
- Mechanical Design
- Chassis Colors: Black
- Tilt: +20~ -5
- VESA Wall Mounting: 100x100mm
- Security
- Kensington lock
- Dimension (WxHxD mm)
- Phys.Dimension(WxHxD): 515mm x 331mm x 220mm
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- Gross Weight (Esti.): 7.4 kg

$118.99