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Old 11-30-2009, 11:01 PM   #1
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Is my PPD too low?

People are reporting 20k ppd on i7's and I am getting 2.6k consistently...


This is what the log says, and what it usually says:
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8 cores detected
If you see this twice, MPI is working
If you see this twice, MPI is working


--- Opening Log file [December 1 05:54:04 UTC]


# Windows SMP Console Edition #################################################
###############################################################################

                       Folding@Home Client Version 6.24R3

                          http://folding.stanford.edu

###############################################################################
###############################################################################

Launch directory: C:\Users\Cory\Folding\SMP
Executable: C:\Users\Cory\Folding\SMP\Folding@home-Win32-x86.exe
Arguments: -bigadv -smp 8

[05:54:04] - Ask before connecting: No
[05:54:04] - User name: cdolphin (Team 11314)
[05:54:04] - User ID: 1F5763624AAF4CDF
[05:54:04] - Machine ID: 1
[05:54:04]
[05:54:04] Loaded queue successfully.
[05:54:04] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[05:54:04] Cleaning up work directory
[05:54:04] + Attempting to get work packet
[05:54:04] - Connecting to assignment server
[05:54:06] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.64).
[05:54:06] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[05:54:06] Loaded queue successfully.
[05:56:12] + Closed connections
[05:56:12]
[05:56:12] + Processing work unit
[05:56:12] Work type a1 not eligible for variable processors
[05:56:12] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[05:56:12] Core not found.
[05:56:12] - Core is not present or corrupted.
[05:56:12] - Attempting to download new core...
[05:56:12] + Downloading new core: FahCore_a1.exe
[05:56:16] + 10240 bytes downloaded
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[05:56:21] Verifying core Core_a1.fah...
[05:56:21] Signature is VALID
[05:56:21]
[05:56:21] Trying to unzip core FahCore_a1.exe
[05:56:21] Decompressed FahCore_a1.exe (2035712 bytes) successfully
[05:56:26] + Core successfully engaged
[05:56:31]
[05:56:31] + Processing work unit
[05:56:31] Work type a1 not eligible for variable processors
[05:56:31] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe
[05:56:31] Core found.
[05:56:31] Using generic mpiexec calls
[05:56:31] Working on queue slot 01 [December 1 05:56:31 UTC]
[05:56:31] + Working ...
[05:56:31]
[05:56:31] *------------------------------*
[05:56:31] Folding@Home Gromacs SMP Core
[05:56:31] Version 1.74 (March 10, 2007)
[05:56:31]
[05:56:31] Preparing to commence simulation
[05:56:31] - Ensuring status. Please wait.
[05:56:31] Created dyn
[05:56:31] - Files status OK
[05:56:31] - Files status OK
[05:56:34] ial work packet
[05:56:34]
[05:56:34] Project: 2665 (Run 3, Clone 568, Gen 152)
[05:56:34]
[05:56:34] Assembly optimizations on if available.
[05:56:34] Entering M.D.
[05:56:34] n 3, Clone 568, Gen 152)
[05:56:34]
[05:56:34] Entering M.D.
[05:56:51] cket
[05:56:51]
[05:56:51] Project: 2665 (Run 3, Clone 568, Gen 152)
[05:56:51]
[05:56:51] Entering M.D.
[05:56:57] Rejecting checkpoint
[05:56:58] Protein: HGG in water
[05:56:58] Writing local files
[05:57:00] Extra SSE boost OK.
[05:57:01] Writing local files
[05:57:01] Completed 0 out of 250000 steps  (0 percent)
I obviously want to contribute as much as I can to the project, how can I increase my PPD ? My GPU is folding non stop, pushing 2k ppd (it is a POS).
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Old 12-01-2009, 04:48 AM   #2
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Ah, I see your issue, you're running the windows SMP. You need to run a Linux VM. Here is a thread on how to do bigadv (well, follow the link in the thread):
http://forums.extremeoverclocking.co...d.php?t=331276

You may also be able to use notfred's folding appliance, but I'm not sure.

BTW, even if you decide not to do bigadv, running a linux VM will net you many more points anyway. I'm getting 5-6k PPD from a Q9550 @ 3.6 GHz.
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Old 12-01-2009, 07:48 AM   #3
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Is running it through a vm significantly worse than running it natively in ubuntu? I also run ubuntu on a different partition, I could boot into it and test.
I will try the linux vm.
Gracias.

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Edit: I am going to run the VM and see what kind of PPD I get
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Old 12-01-2009, 08:48 AM   #4
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well, your gpu ius stealing 1 core, you need to use enviromental variables to chop that bsack.

the vmware will run 200 ppd less, its truely not much of a difference.
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Old 12-01-2009, 12:10 PM   #5
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well, your gpu ius stealing 1 core, you need to use enviromental variables to chop that bsack.

the vmware will run 200 ppd less, its truely not much of a difference.
ah right, I forgot how much CPU usage the ATi GPU client uses. As PatonB said there is a way to lower that, I'm just not familiar with it.

BTW, notfred's is the easiest for VM (I'm just not sure if you can do bigadv on it).
http://reilly.homeip.net/folding/vm.html

Also, you can use Process Lasso to limit the priority of the VM so you can still use the PC (I have my VM set to Low, that way even if I want to game I rarely have to shut down the VM).

VMWare Player 3.0 is what I use for vm software.
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I had trouble running that fah vm that was posted with evga. It would not run with 8 cores enabled, I do not know why
I will see what happens on my ubuntu parition

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Edit: got it working, I gave it more ram, I guess it wanted 4 gigs :O.
I will speak of hte results soon
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With good right, in essence it is a competition of money, which for the longest time has been ,for the strangest reason, associated with monetary success. :Z
Sadly, I am having trouble getting fahmon to work.

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I am hitting 11k PPD which seems a little bit low, but that is pre-bonus and it is only part-way through the WU, so we will see
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With good right, in essence it is a competition of money, which for the longest time has been ,for the strangest reason, associated with monetary success. :Z
Sadly, I am having trouble getting fahmon to work.

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I am hitting 11k PPD which seems a little bit low, but that is pre-bonus and it is only part-way through the WU, so we will see
I find fahspy works better for VM's than fahmon. Make sure you can hit the deadline for that bigadv unit, not all machines can.
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My ETA puts me two days ahead of the dead line. With a total time of 44 hours if my ETA is to be believed, and that includes time rebooting
fahmon seems to be working quite well now, I will look at fahspy aswell.
Thanks for the help
May I ask why they do allow bigadv on windows? Seems funny lol. Vmware eats up extra ram that is unneeded if it was run natively. I allocated 4.1 gb and it is happy running all 8 cores on smp

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I turned in my first 25k wu last night, cannot wait to see the credit.

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Still have not been credited for that last 25k wu, but whatever....
Is it typical for the vm to only be using 87% of my cpu? It seems too good to be coincindince that it is exactly 7/8's .. It appears that it still runs a 7 core client I guess?
I gave it another hundred megs of ram, so it is happy with 4.4 gb
Fah mon shows 10.6 k PPD for that bigadv
and 1.9k for my GPU.
Are these typical? I heard much of the bigadv points ocme from bonus.
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10-11k ppd for bigadv is typical in Fahmon. Fahmon doesn't calculate the bonus into it. You're really seeing about 20k ppd from that though.

Did you run with -smp 8 or -smp 7? If you allocated 4600+ mb of ram then you can do smp 8.
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cdolphin, you did remember to add your user id and team to the vm image right
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smp 7 for now, I only have 6 gigs of ram >.<
Yep, 100% that I configged the client in the vm, I cannot do it via the ip address given, I receive errors:
[HTML]
Warning: fopen(/usr/local/fah/client.cfg) [function.fopen]: failed to open stream: Permission denied in /srv/httpd/htdocs/configfah.php on line 7

Warning: fwrite(): supplied argument is not a valid stream resource in /srv/httpd/htdocs/configfah.php on line 26

Warning: fclose(): supplied argument is not a valid stream resource in /srv/httpd/htdocs/configfah.php on line 27

Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /srv/httpd/htdocs/configfah.php:7) in /srv/httpd/htdocs/configfah.php on line 29[/HTML]

I guess for whatever reason, I did not actually get credit for that 25k WU. Sucks for me . My current wu is 18% done
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