[DDR 400]Wanting to get ram timings in order before I do anything else

[penguine]

I've got 2 gigs of OCZ Platinum DDR 400. 2X1 gig

I've also got a couple sticks of 512 meg. Heres a screen shot.

I'n the screen shot, there's just slots 1,3 and 4...1 and 2 are the same timings soooo...yea.





I'm gonna be adjusting the timings on an MSI 7125 NEO4 board.

Thanks

[shaneshane1]

Hi, Well it looks like your RAM is running underclocked @ 157.9Mhz instead of the rated 200Mhz! and the timings indicate that your ram is on the 166 divider and not 200, some CPU specs would help as well!? need some more information about your setup to work out what it is you actually want to do.

[moosteve]

Originally Posted by penguine

I've got 2 gigs of OCZ Platinum DDR 400. 2X1 gig

I've also got a couple sticks of 512 meg. Heres a screen shot.

I'n the screen shot, there's just slots 1,3 and 4...1 and 2 are the same timings soooo...yea.





I'm gonna be adjusting the timings on an MSI 7125 NEO4 board.

Thanks

i am going to go ahead and say, in my opinion, you are going to be better off just using the 2 sticks of OCZ.... your best sticks, largest capacity and best timings.

mixing & matching ram doesn't always get the best performance, and most likely you will have to adjust your best ram(ocz) to match the timings on your worst sticks, unless you can get them to run faster timings... which i seriously doubt.

that being said... looks like you are running Vista/Win 7... is 2 Gb enough for what you do with the rig?

[Mr.Scott]

4 sticks of ram on that board automatically defaults at DDR333. You can't change that. You need to run 2 sticks.
Run just the Plats @ DDR400 @ 2.5-3-2-5 @ 2.75v and you'll be good to about 250 (DDR500) or so.

[penguine]

I appreciate the feedback. Are there certain slots I should put the OCZ in?? My board is an MSI K8N-Neo4.

And as far as 2 gigs goes, it SHOULD be enough...I don't do anything to intensive..usually Foobar, uTorrent and about 8-10 tabs open in Chrome. No video editing, no gaming, nothing to intensive I don't think.

Thanks guys.



Edit: I'm running W7 x64 SP1

[Mr.Scott]

Are there certain slots I should put the OCZ in?? My board is an MSI K8N-Neo4.

First two slots closest to the CPU.

[penguine]

What about my timings. Do I have to go into the bios and set them like you suggested??? If so, I know this sounds bad, but theres like a crap ton of memory settings...which ones do I change??






Took the other 2 sticks out. heres what I got.

[Mr.Scott]

CAS# latency (CL) = 2.5
RAS# to CAS# delay (TRCD) = 3
RAS# precharge (TRP) = 2
Cycle time (TRAS) = 5
Command Rate (CR) = 1T

[penguine]

Originally Posted by Mr.Scott

CAS# latency (CL) = 2.5
RAS# to CAS# delay (TRCD) = 3
RAS# precharge (TRP) = 2
Cycle time (TRAS) = 5
Command Rate (CR) = 1T

So I should drop my CR to 1 from 2??


Edit: Update: I hope this gets better. Now in iTunes when I play my music videos, it lags and crap. Didn't do that before.

[Mr.Scott]

Yup. (10char)

[penguine]

Originally Posted by Mr.Scott

Yup. (10char)

im running @ 2.5v also

Additional Comment:

Should I bump my voltage up?? I'm @ 2.5 now with I guess, stock timings. I want to get it running as efficient as possible. If I could get it to DDR500 that would be awesome. Do I have to mess with the processor if I'm just fooling with the ram??


After I get the ram sorted, I'll move onto the processor but I want to get the ram running right first.

Thanks

[shaneshane1]

Originally Posted by penguine

Should I bump my voltage up?? I'm @ 2.5 now with I guess, stock timings. I want to get it running as efficient as possible. If I could get it to DDR500 that would be awesome. Do I have to mess with the processor if I'm just fooling with the ram??


After I get the ram sorted, I'll move onto the processor but I want to get the ram running right first.

Thanks

Well your RAM is fine now! (nothing has changed actually) your auto settings are the same as your "manual" setup for those two RAM sticks, apart from changing 2T to 1T! and 2.5V is default as well.

Now as you start to overclock your CPU (outside the multiplier) you are going to have to ("loosen") change all your RAM timings anyway. your stock CPU "speed" will be 200Mhz X Multiplier (example: 200Mhz X 11=2200Mhz "2.2Ghz") so if you start to increase your Base clock speed of 200Mhz to say 210Mhz, then you will have 210Mhz X 11(Multiplier)=2310Mhz "2.310Ghz" (overclock of 110Mhz on the CPU!)

So now your DDR400 RAM (200Mhz "real") will be 10Mhz overclocked (DDR420 RAM, 210Mhz "real") you wont have to change any RAM voltage setting or RAM timings at this point, But the more you push the original 200Mhz base clock, the more your RAM frequency will raise and you will need to loosen your timings and bump up your RAM voltage! there are a few more factors involved, and you cant just do RAM and then the CPU and so on..... it all gets done hand in hand as you go. but if your just Multiplying the 200Mhz CPU Frequency then RAM and the rest of the system can stay stock/auto.

[Mr.Scott]

You don't necessarily have to loosen the timings. That's what dividers are for. Throw the DDR333 divider on it and OC your processor. After you get your max OC, then you worry about the ram. Don't do the ram first, that's @ss backward.

[penguine]

Originally Posted by Mr.Scott

You don't necessarily have to loosen the timings. That's what dividers are for. Throw the DDR333 divider on it and OC your processor. After you get your max OC, then you worry about the ram. Don't do the ram first, that's @ss backward.

I reset my bios a little bit ago, and I was trying to fill in the numbers you said and it wouldn't boot..lol..I was worried..I done killed one of my gpus I think. I tried to replace the fan but it shut off before it even loaded fully.

Running off my stock timings @200mhz with the 3 gigs. How would I go about adjusting the timings so all the sticks will get a little boost. I'm only at 167 I think.

In regards to oc the cpu. Should I drop my multiplier to 4 and raise the fsb?

[Mr.Scott]

Originally Posted by penguine

I reset my bios a little bit ago, and I was trying to fill in the numbers you said and it wouldn't boot..lol..I was worried..I done killed one of my gpus I think. I tried to replace the fan but it shut off before it even loaded fully.

Running off my stock timings @200mhz with the 3 gigs. How would I go about adjusting the timings so all the sticks will get a little boost. I'm only at 167 I think.

In regards to oc the cpu. Should I drop my multiplier to 4 and raise the fsb?

That's because with the 3 gig in it the board defaults at the DDR333 divider. The only way to get your ram speed up now is with the FSB. The timings are as good as they'll get on the ram you're running. 2.5-3-2-5 1T is where you should leave them.

[penguine]

Originally Posted by Mr.Scott

That's because with the 3 gig in it the board defaults at the DDR333 divider. The only way to get your ram speed up now is with the FSB. The timings are as good as they'll get on the ram you're running. 2.5-3-2-5 1T is where you should leave them.

I'm fixxing to swap this stuff out. I need to setup my fans right(I've got 4)..i dont think there doing what there supposed to be doing efficiently. Noise is no worry to me. I've got 3 80mm and a 120 I think..the 120 is the exhaust by the cpu, one 80 is drawing air from outside over my hdd's but its cramped, and the other 2 are pulling off the gpu and cpu from the grill on the side.