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Old 03-02-2017, 09:03 AM   #1
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Ryzen review: AMD is back

Admit it. You love underdog tales. The Cleveland Cavaliers coming back from a 3-1 deficit against the Golden State Warriors. The New York Giants defeating the 18-0 New England Patriots, and the Average Joes beating the heavily favored Purple Cobras in the dodgeball finals.

Well, you can now add AMD’s highly anticipated Ryzen CPU to that list of epic comebacks in history. Yes, disbeliever, AMD’s Ryzen almost—almost—lives up to the hype. What’s more, it delivers the goods at an unbeatable price: $499 for the highest-end Ryzen 7 1800X, half the cost of its closest Intel competitor.

But before AMD fanboys run off to rub it into Intel fanboys’ faces, there’s a very important thing you need to know about this CPU and its puzzling Jekyll and Hyde performance. For some, we dare say, it might even be a deal breaker. Read on.

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Old 03-02-2017, 09:36 AM   #2
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Some very odd benchmarking tests in that article indeed, but say AMD are correct in what they say at the end about optimisations... wow, a 1800X + GTX 1080 for the price of a single Intel 8 core CPU is surely too good to pass up for anyone.
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Old 03-02-2017, 10:04 AM   #3
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How does this companion article even get referenced? Overclocking an i5-3570k to 4.2GHz and comparing to the stock 3.0GHz 1700 in older games? Why is the author surprised by the results?
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Guru3D has a pretty fair review of the 1800x and he's working on the 1700 for tomorrow or the next day.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages...-review,1.html
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Guru3D has a pretty fair review of the 1800x and he's working on the 1700 for tomorrow or the next day.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages...-review,1.html
Is the only difference between the 1700 and 1800x the base clock? I keep seeing people bring up the 1800x but why not just buy the 1700 and OC it? It's got the same cores/threads as the 1800x and it's hella cheaper.
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Old 03-02-2017, 01:44 PM   #6
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Is the only difference between the 1700 and 1800x the base clock? I keep seeing people bring up the 1800x but why not just buy the 1700 and OC it? It's got the same cores/threads as the 1800x and it's hella cheaper.
From the review the overclocks aren't that great yet I think because the bios isn't ready for primetime in the new chipsets.I think they're planning on some bios updates as they go along to address the high frequency ram issue.I guess the 3200 only works stably if it's only 2 slots using 4 I think he said 2600 was really the max.So along with that the overclocks might improve as well.
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Old 03-02-2017, 01:46 PM   #7
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I have a very skewed perspective in that other than browsing forums/tech/game sites and playing games, my home computer is used for virtually nothing else. Woth that being said, meh at this point. Yes, games will use more cores down the road and DX12 will only push that (as we said in 2011, 2012, 2013, etc) but as of NOW for gaming... It's all about the GPU. As long as you have four cores (actual cores with integer AND FPU's; sorry BD/Ex) and a decent OC, your gaming is pretty much dependent on your GPU.

Ryzen is definitely a huge leap forward for AMD and these price points for the threads is definitely impressive, nonetheless. Just not that gaming prodigy yet.
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Once the performance irregularities are explained, if they are corrected by drivers, I'm thinking a 1700 + a 1080ti for 1440p gaming. Thoughts?
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You could do 1440P gaming with a 1080 in your current rig to be honest.
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Maybe I'll start off with just the card... I only have 8 gig ram though... And I'm sold on the ti... in case I go to a higher res. Although it can't hurt to start off with a card only and wait for things to shake out with ryzen.
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Old 03-02-2017, 07:49 PM   #11
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Just sitting here waiting still for the bugs and motherboards to iron out. Workstation/Multithreading performance hit my marker on this chip, even exceeds it awesomely for the price. I am in fact buying one. Now I just wait the time needed for Mobos to catch up to market issue discovery. Expect to begin building in about a month to two at latest. In time to see what Vega does. Looks like its time to start deciding and snatching up peripherals while I watch motherboards. Will probably go green team on GPU but if Vega is out by then this could change.
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Once the performance irregularities are explained, if they are corrected by drivers, I'm thinking a 1700 + a 1080ti for 1440p gaming. Thoughts?
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You could do 1440P gaming with a 1080 in your current rig to be honest.
I'm with AT on this one, I'm still rocking a 4690k and a gtx970 pushing to a 1440p 144hz panel and haven't really ran into anything that makes me want to upgrade yet. Yes a few top tier games I have to turn aa/af down, but still looks and plays great. I'm going to wait at least until the next gen of cards comes out before I replace this 970
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I'm with AT on this one, I'm still rocking a 4690k and a gtx970 pushing to a 1440p 144hz panel and haven't really ran into anything that makes me want to upgrade yet.
Mine routinely his the 3.5gig ram wall when ramping up lighting effects ambient occlusion and depth of field. Turns my screen into a flip book.
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The review for the 1700x is up on Guru3D and it seems pretty close to the 1800x only a 100 bucks cheaper.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages...-review,1.html
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Yeah I didn't mean to derail into a gpu discussion, sorry.
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The review for the 1700x is up on Guru3D and it seems pretty close to the 1800x only a 100 bucks cheaper.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages...-review,1.html
Nice! For me it'll come down to how well it OC's for normal users. I'm currently stuck between considering a Ryzen build or moving to a 5820K as I've seen multiple threads of people being able to get the chip to the 4.6gHz area. I'm still on the fence of what Intel will release next as I'm sure they're worried about market share. I'm just kinda under impressed by the 6700K @ 4.6 when it comes to it's ability to render and compile games. I need more cores but at about the same speed to I make sure I keep my frames when playing games lol
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I'm with AT on this one, I'm still rocking a 4690k and a gtx970 pushing to a 1440p 144hz panel and haven't really ran into anything that makes me want to upgrade yet. Yes a few top tier games I have to turn aa/af down, but still looks and plays great. I'm going to wait at least until the next gen of cards comes out before I replace this 970
You must not play AAA games then.

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Mine routinely his the 3.5gig ram wall when ramping up lighting effects ambient occlusion and depth of field. Turns my screen into a flip book.
^ This. 3.5GB isn't enough for 1440P anymore. I haven't been able to use SLI in most games for a while because of it.
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And oh yeah, twenty meg cache!
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Correct, 4GB may be tight for higher end games but 8GB seems like more than enough. I actually have yet to use more than 3.5ish vRAM in a game yet.
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Correct, 4GB may be tight for higher end games but 8GB seems like more than enough. I actually have yet to use more than 3.5ish vRAM in a game yet.
You apparently don't game at 7680 x 1440. My poor little GTX 980ti suffers and weeps under AAA games at that resolution.
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