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Old 04-21-2011, 08:46 PM   #1
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Running out of ideas for this e2140

Hi guys.

In few words, what I have is a Pentium Dual Core processor e2140 with high oc capabilities from what I have read in tons of articles around the web, being wasted at a very modest 1,6ghz x8 200mhz. As I have 3 fans running and a average core temp of 25, I decided to try to overclock it. I had a foxconn lucknow MB when I first bought this pre-made PC, now I have a ECS G41T-M5, yeah, I know, lame MB, still better than the foxconn I had (this one has pci-e for example...)

This G41T-M5 comes with a standard AMIBIOS v8.0015 (64-0100-001131-00101111-051710-Eaglelake)
and for some reason options like "Ratio actual value/status" or "CPU mutilplier" or "FSB frequency" does not appear in CMOS setup utility, and some indicators are grayed out. I tried everything, disabling EIST, spread spectrum, everything on the web, and nothing. Voltage setings are grayed too. I can, however, modify RAM timmings.

Then I tried to change the FSB freq via windows with setFSB and some others programs, but my PLL (ICS 9LPRS525AGLF) is not listed.

I even tried to modify a BIOS rom to unlock some features (as I have read on some BIOS modding sites), after some reading, I finally got the right tools (AMIBCP) to modify my MB-specific BIOS rom.





I thought I had it, many sites says some vendors hidden some BIOS features, and some of these functions are easily unhidden by those kind of programs (AMIBCP, mobdin, etc) The function Ratio CMOS setting (cpu mutiplier) appeared in the AMIBCP program as a hidden feature, and it was not visible in my original CMOS setup utility, so I decided to set the access of it as "User", failsafe and optimal values as 0A (10 in dec value I supposed, not sure why it was FF, 255 in dec value) So I went ahead and flashed it. Everything was fine, but I still couldn't see the "Ratio CMOS setting" option, however, the "Ratio status", which displayed if the processor had its mutiplier locked or unlocked was not displayed anymore. Not sure what happened there.

Then I read about CMOS hacking, but after runing some programs like Cmos Tools, I have no idea what hex I have to modify to change my multiplier, and I'm not even sure if its going to work either.

Am I doomed, or do I have a last resource out there?

As a computer engineering student, I hate to let it go, but I'm completely out of ideas. This is becoming a big challenge for me

Some specs:

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CPU: Intel Pentium Dual Core E2140
clock speed 1600.0 MHz
FSB speed 200.0 MHz
multiplier 8.0x
Vcore 1.35

Motherboard: ECS G41T-M5 version 1.0

BIOS: American Megatrends Inc v 080015
date 05/17/2010 (not really, its moded)

RAM x2
Max bandwidth PC2-5300 (333 MHz)
Nominal Voltage 1.80 Volts
Memory Type DDR2, 2048 MBytes
CAS# latency (CL) 5.0
RAS# to CAS# delay (tRCD) 5
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 5
Cycle Time (tRAS) 15
Row Refresh Cycle Time (tRFC) 36

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Old 04-21-2011, 10:49 PM   #2
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is that a program that u use in overclocking? if so it will not help you to overclock nicely.. better overclock through bios.. if ECS cant permit you that.. switch into a P5kpl-am motherboard.. and if u have a memory frequency of 800 set it in 667 if ur aiming a higher option.. "dont overclock using a program"..
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is that a program that u use in overclocking? if so it will not help you to overclock nicely.. better overclock through bios.."dont overclock using a program"..
Other than setFSB, the other program is a BIOS editor!



@OP It seems you did some homework. And, I'm assuming there is no option in the BIOS to "Enable" manual adjustment of clocks.
After researching it a little, it seems noone is OCing using that board. I found many complaints about the grayed out options in the BIOS. I also found your post on OCN, where they also told you, you're out of luck!
For the record, If you were able to OC with that board, you'll probably start a fire or fry the CPU with dirty power. I think you should look in to another board!
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Other than setFSB, the other program is a BIOS editor!



@OP It seems you did some homework. And, I'm assuming there is no option in the BIOS to "Enable" manual adjustment of clocks.
After researching it a little, it seems noone is OCing using that board. I found many complaints about the grayed out options in the BIOS. I also found your post on OCN, where they also told you, you're out of luck!
For the record, If you were able to OC with that board, you'll probably start a fire or fry the CPU with dirty power. I think you should look in to another board!
Dirty power? hmm well that was something I didn't had in mind. Yes, I have read a lot of stuff about this board, that it sucks, that ECS sucks, etc. My theory was, if Windows could manage the multiplier even with EIST turned off... there must be something that I can do to manage the multiplier. I still can't find, however a right program, I saw some programs being made specifically to some boards and brands.

I think I still can modify the multiplier, but it would require developing my own program, and a lot, lots of research. Maybe I can send an email to developers to ask them to add support to my PLL, that would be another option

But I'm really thinking about buying a new board,an Asus P5G41T-M LX but not now since I don't have any money lol, but maybe next month.

http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Int...75/P5G41TM_LX/

I would had to buy DDR3 ram also, but for some reason they're cheaper than DDR2, at least here in Chile
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The thing is, Intel locks the multiplier up. EIST only lowers the multi. That said, You wont find a prog. or develop one for that matter that will raise the multi. setFSB *sometimes* works with the number of a similar board, for instance, another ECS g41 board.
Or you could try clockgen.

As for VCore, you could search for a v-mod, and with a bit of soldering skills, raise VCore that way.

Also, by "dirty power", I mean the regulation isn't going to be great on that board. You may end up with voltage spikes (at higher voltages) that can mean certain death to your CPU.
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Old 05-01-2011, 12:12 PM   #6
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Just buy a used mobo and OC that beast. I bought a gigabyte p31 esg mobo 3 years ago for $80 brand new and i OC'ed my e2160 to 3.6ghz Stress Stable! thats a 100% OC. Although i keep it at 3ghz 24/7, to get it to 3.6ghz i had to bump the vcore alot more than what i needed for 3ghz...

im pretty sure you could get a used 775 socket board for like $20 to $40 at the most now.
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